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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore - Laurie Durgin

Yeah , that is it! Holy cow, this horse has a longer face and nose. When I put the noseband where it would be as in a bridle with bit, the shanks are at the end of his mouth. He has less distance from his nose to ground than this horse(polish crabbet type arab). His head is lip around poll to lip 44"(just measured.)Maybe I still have it too low,but the chinstrap fit in the groove.Also the noseband may be too snug. I gave it one finger space. Should it be looser?






From: "C. Eyler" <eyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Laurie Durgin" <ladurgin@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:46:14 -0500

Is the EZ hackamore at this link what you're talking about?

http://runningbear.com/catalog/display.php3?cartid=3e1247f03c1fd&zid=1&lid=1&cat=3&scat=17

Cindy


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Laurie Durgin
  To: milamj@xxxxxxxxxxx ; Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 8:21 PM
  Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore


Noseband 1.5 inches above the corners of his mouth? (Jumping hack. so it
has these flat plates like shanks , and a leather fleece lined noseband.
Shanks parralell his mouth and end about where his mouth does(so when he
grazed with it, they almost or barely touched the ground). I put the
noseband where you'd normally put a noseband, and the chin strap in his
groove.(like I would for a pelham).
Never actually seen one in a picture . May have to peruse ridecamp pictures
for a "hack" picture. . . . .






>From: Jerry & Susan Milam <milamj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: Laurie Durgin <ladurgin@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore
>Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:10:56 -0600
>
>You want that noseband so it sits about 1.5" from the corner of his mouth.
>Does that make sence?
>
>Susan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Laurie Durgin
> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:39 PM
> > To: Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [RC] Rascal and the Hackamore
> >
> >
> > Well we did about 45 min. in ring today(will he stop,or buck with this
> > thing?) was playing in my mind. First off I had to find
> > somethingto put it
> > on. His biothane wouldn't work , I'd have to take noseband off(or
> > have 2),
> > and take his bit off the keepers that snap off(very time consuming). His
> > English leather bridle wouldn't work.Ah , but I use a western
> > headstall on
> > Honey that adjust to fit most horses.So I took her bit off and
> > put the hack
> > on, where I thought it should go and put it on him. ROTFL. The
> > 'hack' came
> > down to his lips,and the noseband was about at his nostrils.So I took
>the
> > straps all the way up,to where it looked like maybe it should
> > go.(course the
> > bottom edges of the hack go to the bottom of his lips. hhhmmmm."Well the
> > noseband looks like it is in the right place, at least it covers up the
> > Roman bump there and the fleece nicely disguishes it. They may think
>that
> > dish goes straight instead of bumping back up."(well I am female)
> > Proceeding to the ring.I gave him a couple ground turns with it
> > on and a few
> > "ho's".So maybe he'd get the idea.("So far ,so good I thought, actually
> > those cheek pieces act like large flat full snaffle pieces and he
> > is used to
> > that.")
> > I mount(lets try the right side today).I drop reins and go into
> > my JL give
> > to the ???"hack" technique. (well, it works, heck he's a horse, maybe he
> > doesn't know or care).
> > Then we do some walk, stop.Hey it works, better than yesterday
> > maybe. Then I
> > test with walk, trot, transitions, and a few, ho's. He did much
> > better than
> > yesterday(rubber snaffle then, still got the tooth thing to deal
> > with ,till
> > vet comes out).Even cantered some.(he was lazy, still doesn't
> > like to canter
> > in ring much.Didn't have to use "alot of weight to make him stop,
> > though I
> > gave light pressure only increasing if he didn't listen.But it took less
> > "pressure" than the snaffle did yesterday. Will take some more
> > days in the
> > ring, before I try it on the trail.(told my husband and sons, "if you
>see
> > him galloping home and me screaming "ho,ho,HO ALPO!!!!!" you'll know it
> > doesn't work as well on the trail.( or maybe I can blackmail,
> > bribe, etc.
> > my daughter and Champ to go out for an hour with me first.(course
> > he moves
> > to her new trainers next weekend, and rain is coming in
> > tomorrow.The things
> > you have to do to get huntseat riders to trailride.:0) Laurie and
> > Rascal("are you sure this is where this funny metal bars go and
> > why do they
> > have those 3 holes in each side?")
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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