RE: [RC] Myths - Bruce Weary - Kristen A FisherThe HWC specifically doesn't keep these records - AERC requires the information. The head vet must complete this form for each distance and give to the RM to send to AERC. The info is collected - but whether it is tabulated [so it can be analyzed] I don't know. http://aerc.org/upload/VetPostRide.pdf Kristen -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp- owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Harper Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:49 PM To: Truman Prevatt; ridecamp Subject: Re: [RC] Myths - Bruce Weary Truman, You have the right idea! Let the data do the talking. Several people have posted me off-line that the HWC does not keep records on horses requiring treatment. The best we can do is look at metabolic pulls. To look at "New Riders" you could look at the rider's ride record and compare the number of starts to the number of metabilic pulls. I bet an ace number cruncher like yourself could generate the stats in no time. Regards, Pete --- Truman Prevatt <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Peter, The HWC committee could do an easy quick and dirty. I assume the HWC has statistics for all the treatments over the past few years. Prioritize those treatments into three categories, minor metabolic, major metabolic and accidents (rider falls off - horse runs into fence, etc.). Break the treatments into distances categories - LD, 50 to 95 and 100. Then take from the database the total number of starts in those categories - both nationally and regionally. Then calculate the percentages of LD treatments in each treatment category, 50 mile treatments, etc. Do this nationally and regionally. You can do more but this simple number should be quick and dirty to calculate and provide some very relevant information. If they want to send me the treatment data - with the rider name redacted of course I will be happy to do it. The best way to expose myths is to simply run the numbers. As Richard Feynman was fond of saying - "Shut up and calculate." Truman Peter Harper wrote:Bruce, We are all speculating. It would be very interesting to see the statisticsonthe horses that have require treatment. I'm sure the Horse Welfare Committee maintainsrecordson how may horses require treatment every year. Truman or someone else goo with numbers should beableto correlate the riders name with their AERCrecord,ride distance, region or etc. I've seen similar analysis on the pull rates by distance and region. This would put to rest the argument about if LDridersare more or less responsible that enduranceriders.Regards, Pete___________________________________________________________________ _________________Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow youwith Yahoo Mobile. Try it now.http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net,http://www.endurance.net.Information, Policy, Disclaimer:http://www.endurance.net/RidecampSubscribe/Unsubscribehttp://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.aspRide Long and Ride Safe!!=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-- "It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong" Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate in Physics___________________________________________________________________ _________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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