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Re: [RC] the horse can't out pull you - tying and rolling the dice - Kathy Mayeda - Rebecca FabiszakPersonally, I don't tie the horse's that stand kindly in the trailer. The horses (kids) that I do tie are too young to not get themselves into trouble. I have a friend that had his trailer roll on the freeway but all four horses survived due to the fact that they were not tied. The trailer rolled but they all survived. I don't tie when we are on the freeway. Just my humble opinion. Beccy in Utah From: "Kitley, Carrie E Civ USAF AFSPC 30 MDSS/SGSLF" <carrie.kitley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:41:56 PM Subject: Re: [RC] the horse can't out pull you - tying and rolling the dice - Kathy Mayeda Hi Kathy - I'm just curious -- what is your reasoning behind leaving your horses untied in the trailer? I'm not criticizing, just wondering. I know if I were a horse I wouldn't want to be tied in on a long trip, but being a human, I worry about my horse not being tied in while traveling. And don't they come flying out before you're ready when you open the gate? I don't know if I could get the halter on fast enough before my mare's ready to back out. Lol Thanks, Kathy Carrie Before I knew any better (i.e. got "indoctrined" by Parelli), I was party to "muscling" horses into trailers, and they generally load fine afterwards. It does indeed reflect a lot on the horses personality, and a lot also on the relationship with the person "muscling" the horse into the trailer. I did have some good success also in teaching a horse to tie with a rope halter without hardware, tied to a high ring welded onto a substantial metal shed column. It did entail some 2 minutes of struggle until the horse figured out that he was hurting himself by setting back against the thin nylon rope. No tying problems since. Usually it's the hardware or stitching that breaks, not the rope or webbing unless it's worn. Yes, I know that this can set the horse back chiropractically - I'll use different methods now. It drives me crazy to see baling twine lined up at the hitch racks at the boarding facility because that means that the owners are training their horses to set back and get free. I do tie my horses tight with the lead rope and use rope halters generally. The same mare I had trouble trailer loading broke three snaps with a regular nylon halter and lead rope while trying to tie her into the trailer. All that session did was reinforce her thought that she can escape trailer loading and worsened the problem. Sometimes we just need to take the time to teach the horse these things properly, which is what "muscling in" and "tying them tight to let them fight it out" are just shortcuts that may or may not work. Aside from all that, I will not tie a horse into the trailer with a rope halter because in case they need to brace they may bang themselves against the rope halter which I think is a little cruel. But that gets into the tie or not tie in the trailer discussion (I don't tie.) If someone else is trailering them, I will send them off with a nylon web halter. K. Carrie Kitley 30th Medical Group, Vandenberg AFB DMLSS Database Sustainment Specialist (DSS) CACI International Inc, www.caci.com DSN: 276-1077 Fax: 805-606-1179 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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