Barbara is correct, there are fees. and upkeep the ranchers must do.
Forest Service and BLM grazing rights are often tied to a particular
ranch. The regs may have changed but FS permits stayed with the ranch
unless the FS pulled the permits, can only be sold to another rancher that
already has a permit in that district. Usually if a rancher buys a
ranch he gets the permits, but often the FS has the right to cut the numbers
allowed. I think BLM permits are more flexable. There is
an annual per head grazing fee charged each year. The fee is (or used to
be) based on the market value of livestock. Fees change
with prices. FS and BLM control how many cattle or sheep can go on and
what dates they can start and when they must leave each allotment.
Rancher must maintain the water sources, and all the fences. They do
not get free pasture.
I know when you were living in Council, Tammy, and there isn't
much BLM but a lot of FS in Adams county. Don't think it has changed much
since.
There has been no free grazing since the Taylor Grazing act in
the early 30s went in.
Before then is when most of the serious over use of the range took
place.
There are a few horses still in the Crane Creek area east of Midvale. There
was maybe 100 head, as late as early, mid 80s, but not many
now. There are quite a few bands in Owyhee County, and I'm sure in
the further eastern counties of Idaho The corner of Idaho
Oregon and Nevada has a lot of "wild" horses.
To make this endurance related, if it wasn't for the water sources,
roads and trails the ranchers keep open, and the loggers as well, much of
our FS/BLM public land would be unsuitable for endurance
rides. Game trails are not very acceptable to many of our
riders. They were not popular on the rides I put on here.
(;>)
Barbara, BLM Permits or rights can or used come with
the ranch you buy or you can buy it from some other rancher. I think new
permits or rights are closed, or so it was back about 15 - 20 years
ago. If you bought a ranch and the BLM rights were sold off to someone
else for their ranch then you were out of luck for BLM grazing rights for
your cattle. Most of the state of Idaho, do not have wild horses, or they
didn't back then. Natural water ways are abundant there, but not safe
for cattle access nor do the BLM folks want cattle pooping in streams and
natural lakes provided by nature. If that happens then we as lower
ranchers have liver parasite problems with the other animals and folks
swimming down streams. Now that is another subject!
Tammy Robinson Trail-Rite Products 18171 Lost Creek
Road Saugus, CA 91390 661/513-9269 office 661/713-3912
cell 661/513-9206 fax www.trail-rite.com
In a message dated 7/19/2008 12:29:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I don't have a problem with created water
ponds...they provide wild horses and other animals with needed water, and in
the case here at home, they create great frog habitat. I was always
under the impression that ranchers had to pay BLM for grazing rights.
Was I wrong?
This sounds good but Cattle ran on BLM do a lot of damage and the
ranchers make water ponds, catch pens with large equipment, which
also take roads to get to, blah, blah blah....So the Cattle do have
private owners that make money on the sale of Cattle which is done by having
free feed all summer (or winter in some areas) on BLM land. I know
this first hand. We used to have a cattle ranch in Council, Idaho, and
couldn't wait to move the stock up to the BLM lands with our BLM grazing
rights permit....which is funny, that can be sold too!
So this just gets deeper as a subject.....
Tammy Robinson Trail-Rite Products 18171 Lost
Creek Road Saugus, CA 91390 661/513-9269 office 661/713-3912
cell 661/513-9206 fax www.trail-rite.com
In a message dated 7/18/2008 7:59:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
One good thing that BLM
allows is controlled grazing, because such use keeps invasive brush and
weeds to a
minimum.
