Actually, you are both right, however, you do have to pay BLM or Forest Service, whomever you are being permitted from, so much per cow, cow/calf or bull each and every year. Also, when you sell your ranch the new owner has the opportunity to pick up the permit as well. The rancher will take a count of the cattle and, believe me, so do the "said" agencies and you will pay accordingly. Ginger
Barbara, BLM Permits or rights can or used come with the ranch you buy or you can buy it from some other rancher. I think new permits or rights are closed, or so it was back about 15 - 20 years ago. If you bought a ranch and the BLM rights were sold off to someone else for their ranch then you were out of luck for BLM grazing rights for your cattle. Most of the state of Idaho, do not have wild horses, or they didn't back then. Natural water ways are abundant there, but not safe for cattle access nor do the BLM folks want cattle pooping in streams and natural lakes provided by nature. If that happens then we as lower ranchers have liver parasite problems with the other animals and folks swimming down streams. Now that is another subject!
Tammy Robinson Trail-Rite Products 18171 Lost Creek Road Saugus, CA 91390 661/513-9269 office 661/713-3912 cell 661/513-9206 fax www.trail-rite.com
In a message dated 7/19/2008 12:29:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I don't have a problem with created water ponds...they provide wild horses and other animals with needed water, and in the case here at home, they create great frog habitat. I was always under the impression that ranchers had to pay BLM for grazing rights. Was I wrong?
This sounds good but Cattle ran on BLM do a lot of damage and the ranchers make water ponds, catch pens with large equipment, which also take roads to get to, blah, blah blah....So the Cattle do have private owners that make money on the sale of Cattle which is done by having free feed all summer (or winter in some areas) on BLM land. I know this first hand. We used to have a cattle ranch in Council, Idaho, and couldn't wait to move the stock up to the BLM lands with our BLM grazing rights permit....which is funny, that can be sold too!
So this just gets deeper as a subject.....
Tammy Robinson Trail-Rite Products 18171 Lost Creek Road Saugus, CA 91390 661/513-9269 office 661/713-3912 cell 661/513-9206 fax www.trail-rite.com
In a message dated 7/18/2008 7:59:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
One good thing that BLM allows is controlled grazing, because such use keeps invasive brush and weeds to a minimum.