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Re: [RC] [RC] Harry Whitney - Kathy Mayeda

Becky Hart introduced me to Parelli stuff about 2 years into my horse ownership. And she encourages all new horse owners to do Pareilli clinics. I'm not sure of the chronology for Becky for PNH, but by the time I met Becky she had already won her three world endurance championships.

You are correct, though, a lot of the most impressive higher level students have previous horsemanship skills. But they have turned to Parelli because they felt something was lacking in their overall education.

K.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Sullivan" <greymare56@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Kathy Mayeda" <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Pam Salem" <psalem@xxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Harry Whitney


But Kathy,
You are in my first group of people, i.e., you have the smarts and
experience with horses to filter out the crap.....you are using it to
enhance what you know already, instead of totally replacing what you
know about handliing horses..which a
lot of people seem to do with the program.....

If somebody was to buy one of your horses; it would be a good horse becuase of
YOU, not necessarly just the Parelli program.....

Also...the fact you actually DO something with your horses
effectively; i.e. trail ride out in the real world and condition and
ride endurance (which requires a lot of common sense horse handling
just in getting TO rides and tacking up and getting a horse safely
though the ride and vet checks with a lot of other hi-energy horses
around); says volumes about your horse skills.....how many years
riding and horse handling did you do BEFORE the PNH?
Karen

n 8/25/07, Kathy Mayeda <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think that it is important to note that Harry Whitney still does the
clinics himself. The Parelli's have turned all the lower Levels program to
their "disciples" or via their DVD home instruction package. I think that
leaves a lot of room for people to misintepret the PNH program. And a lot
of people starting PNH have a very little horsemanship skills to begin with
and really need more direct instruction than a lot of them are getting.

The PNH program has actually been "dumbed down" a few times to accommodate
totally new horse owners. My first exposure to PNH was when it was
difficult to pass Level 1, and I really didnt' "need" to pass Level 1 and
dropped PNH for awhile to do endurance. Having Drako pushed me back into
the fold and I passed Level One with Cezanne, who is now on tour with the
Parellis, without a whole lot of extra effort. All of this is due to PNH
being readily available at Lightfoot, otherwise I'm not sure that I would be
exposed to the program to the level that I can actually appreciate the
program as I do now. I probably would be like everyone else laughing at
people chasing their horses with carrot sticks.

I have never been to a Harry Whitney clinic. I had been at the barn where
this instructor teaches for about a year. I admired this instructor and
would not hesitate to recommend her. The Harry Whitney methods are unique
but close enough to the Parelli methods that I decided I would be too
confused and wouldn't be able to either of them well if I took lessons from
her. (Besides - I was in a vacuum where I wasn't in the mood to do anything
with my horses except just get on and ride.)

I moved from that barn to a bigger barn with a big pro-Parelli contingency,
and just as many poo-pooing PNH. And half the PNH people there are totally
inept yet in their horsemanship. They are the ones that are in the round
pen with an orange stick. The few that are higher level PNH students are
out riding their horses elsewhere, so you hardly ever see good examples of
PNH horsemanship at my barn. Since I've got 2 out of 3 just plain good
ridin' horses, I don't spend a lot of time with PNH stuff at the barn but I
do take Drako to every BASP playday possible because they are excellent
desensitizing and engaging events for him. The resident non-recognized PNH
instructor does not ride trail, therefore I will never take a lesson from
her because of that major gaping hole in her horsemanship.

There are no "Levels" that I know of with Harry Whitney. Like you said, the
"real deal." Diana Thompson wrote an article about Harry Whitney a long
time ago in the now defunct Whole Horse Journal which is in my book a high
endorsement.

K.


----- Original Message -----
From: Pam Salem
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: [RC] Harry Whitney

kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
She's now taking lessons from a non-Parelli (but NH ala Harry Whitney)
trainer right now who is absolutely fabulous.  >>>>

Harry Whitney is one of the best horsemen I have ever seen. It was like
being at the feet of the master....all the while enjoying humility and a
sense of humor. His keen eye and innate understanding of the horse is just
amazing. His ability to explain and teach is excellent.

He comes to Rogersville, TN, in June & July each year for a few weeks and
his clinics fill up quickly. I went as an auditor. On one occasion he
worked with a mare that had just been given to him. She did not know much
communication but had not been abused or anything. She was across the round
pen, and he showed how he got her attention and got her to come to him and
consider it a safe place to be. It was firm, gentle, and very clear
communication. That evening in our talks, someone commented, "I just don't
know if I will ever have the patience to do what you did with the mare
today, Harry."

Harry thought a minute and then said, "No. No, that isn't what it is. It
isn't patience. That is where people misquote Job. Job did not have
patience, he had faith. I had the faith that she would come to me...I just
had to figure out what I had to do to help her."

Harry is the real deal. www.harrywhitney.com

Pam Salem
www.equineassistedassets.com
www.horizonfarmsporthorses.com


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