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Re: [RC] [RC] Harry Whitney - Karen SullivanBut Kathy, You are in my first group of people, i.e., you have the smarts and experience with horses to filter out the crap.....you are using it to enhance what you know already, instead of totally replacing what you know about handliing horses..which a lot of people seem to do with the program..... If somebody was to buy one of your horses; it would be a good horse becuase of YOU, not necessarly just the Parelli program..... Also...the fact you actually DO something with your horses effectively; i.e. trail ride out in the real world and condition and ride endurance (which requires a lot of common sense horse handling just in getting TO rides and tacking up and getting a horse safely though the ride and vet checks with a lot of other hi-energy horses around); says volumes about your horse skills.....how many years riding and horse handling did you do BEFORE the PNH? Karen n 8/25/07, Kathy Mayeda <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think that it is important to note that Harry Whitney still does the clinics himself. The Parelli's have turned all the lower Levels program to their "disciples" or via their DVD home instruction package. I think that leaves a lot of room for people to misintepret the PNH program. And a lot of people starting PNH have a very little horsemanship skills to begin with and really need more direct instruction than a lot of them are getting. The PNH program has actually been "dumbed down" a few times to accommodate totally new horse owners. My first exposure to PNH was when it was difficult to pass Level 1, and I really didnt' "need" to pass Level 1 and dropped PNH for awhile to do endurance. Having Drako pushed me back into the fold and I passed Level One with Cezanne, who is now on tour with the Parellis, without a whole lot of extra effort. All of this is due to PNH being readily available at Lightfoot, otherwise I'm not sure that I would be exposed to the program to the level that I can actually appreciate the program as I do now. I probably would be like everyone else laughing at people chasing their horses with carrot sticks. I have never been to a Harry Whitney clinic. I had been at the barn where this instructor teaches for about a year. I admired this instructor and would not hesitate to recommend her. The Harry Whitney methods are unique but close enough to the Parelli methods that I decided I would be too confused and wouldn't be able to either of them well if I took lessons from her. (Besides - I was in a vacuum where I wasn't in the mood to do anything with my horses except just get on and ride.) I moved from that barn to a bigger barn with a big pro-Parelli contingency, and just as many poo-pooing PNH. And half the PNH people there are totally inept yet in their horsemanship. They are the ones that are in the round pen with an orange stick. The few that are higher level PNH students are out riding their horses elsewhere, so you hardly ever see good examples of PNH horsemanship at my barn. Since I've got 2 out of 3 just plain good ridin' horses, I don't spend a lot of time with PNH stuff at the barn but I do take Drako to every BASP playday possible because they are excellent desensitizing and engaging events for him. The resident non-recognized PNH instructor does not ride trail, therefore I will never take a lesson from her because of that major gaping hole in her horsemanship. There are no "Levels" that I know of with Harry Whitney. Like you said, the "real deal." Diana Thompson wrote an article about Harry Whitney a long time ago in the now defunct Whole Horse Journal which is in my book a high endorsement. K. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Salem To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: [RC] Harry Whitney kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: She's now taking lessons from a non-Parelli (but NH ala Harry Whitney) trainer right now who is absolutely fabulous. >>>> Harry Whitney is one of the best horsemen I have ever seen. It was like being at the feet of the master....all the while enjoying humility and a sense of humor. His keen eye and innate understanding of the horse is just amazing. His ability to explain and teach is excellent. He comes to Rogersville, TN, in June & July each year for a few weeks and his clinics fill up quickly. I went as an auditor. On one occasion he worked with a mare that had just been given to him. She did not know much communication but had not been abused or anything. She was across the round pen, and he showed how he got her attention and got her to come to him and consider it a safe place to be. It was firm, gentle, and very clear communication. That evening in our talks, someone commented, "I just don't know if I will ever have the patience to do what you did with the mare today, Harry." Harry thought a minute and then said, "No. No, that isn't what it is. It isn't patience. That is where people misquote Job. Job did not have patience, he had faith. I had the faith that she would come to me...I just had to figure out what I had to do to help her." Harry is the real deal. www.harrywhitney.com Pam Salem www.equineassistedassets.com www.horizonfarmsporthorses.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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