A horse that is "Parelli"
trained is not disrespectful, rude or dangerous-- the whole point of the
system is the opposite- I have had great success with his level one stuff as
have quite a few of my friends. Parrelli has not reinvented the wheel
here- his stuff is basically good horsemanship/training practices, all he
has done is to market them in a package that explains in simple,easy terms
the basics of training- instead of learning the hard way over 30
years!
*I am not saying everything he is teaching is
wrong or bad; you are exactly right in that it is
all packaged....the good and bad....I am not
claiming to know everything, but sure didn't take me
30 years to learn common sense horse handling!
Gosh, my sister and I, ages 14 and 16 basically
reformed a somewhat wild and spooky mare into
a useful horse without any "Parelli Package", by
combinations of good doses of COMMON SENSE and
reading every horse book in library....gee, we put this together in a year
or so....but all the good training Parelli teaches is, in my book, no excuse
for all the dangerous stuff!
If you have a horse that did not
move over with very little pressure there is no way anyone was doing Parelli
with him- just because someone say's he is trained that way doesn't make it
so!! I think the name/system is starting to get thrown around with
people having very little idea of what they are talking about. ( I mean this
in general.)
*Horse came from Parelli
traiing.....
I agree with you about the child w/out
a helmet, write them a letter! However I have yet to see a picture of a
western child or adult doing barrel racing- steer roping etc.. with a helmet
on either.
*What does Western rider with no helmet (also
unsafe and stupid) have anything to do with justifying what Parelli is
teaching and charging $$$ for?
*Karen
Chrystal
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I
am not a Parelli fan, probably see too many "Parelli"trained horses that
I felt were dangerous and disrespectful..you see people doing things
with horses willy nilly....standing on their backs (falling off!),
jumping bareback, no bridles, with NO HELMETS!, standing on horses lying
down, bridling from their KNEES??? Come on, all very unsafe
practices....
I am concerned though when people dismiss these
teaching programs with comments like the above. The idea of the
Parelli/Lyons/Anderson programs to is teach riders to connect with their
horses instead of just treating them as mounts, and to learn ways of
interacting with them which actually makes life much safer.
*Yes, but
these guys did not "invent" desentising horses, or working
with them.....and still no justification for the unsafe stuff.
How
many of these NASA trained Arabs would benefit with some
desentization work - Walmart bags on the end of carrot sticks flung aound
their heads for a few rounds might go a long way to reduce their
airflight time.
*Does that mean we need to buy a $$$$$ carrot
stick?
These programs suggest ways to work with your horses that make
them safer not more disrespectful. I have seen a lot of obnoxious
horses, but none who have had owners who've spent time with them on the
ground, doing the work taught in these seminars.
*Sorry, I have.
Many common sense ways to work with horses to make
then safer.
Which is more safe - a horse that throws his head to
the sky every time you try to bridle him - sometimes taking your arm out
of socket doing so - or a horse that drops his head - even to the point
where you can be on your knees to put one on? Riding without a bridle is
the ultimate connection with a horse - not to be done without prior
teaching of course, but why would one criticize this type of learning
that results in a deeper affinity for your equine friend? Why
would anyone need a helmet on to do ground work? I don't understand
these criticisms.
*Boy, lets see.....riding with a bridle is
lovely...no criticism of that...but what about rider on horse with no
bridle, no helmet? Don't need helmet for ground work, unless you
are doing some very dangerous like kneeling right in front of the horse
to bridle it.....I do not do Parelli work but my horses are lovely to
bridle. Why would anyone even need to bridle their horse from their
knees???
These "celebrities" do have their groupies, of course,
Parelli more than most. But he is a showman - and spends a lot of
time making the system fun and entertaining. His program still
works.
*Again, not what I have seen or experienced.
Anderson
gets to the meat quick with much ado- good solid info there, mate. I have
found that the techniques and tips I gathered from these 3 gurus (which
can be found on RFDTV and in magazines, you don't have to pay a lot of
money to learn about them) to be excellent tools for passing on at
4H meetings and with new or young riders.
*I totally do not put
Lyons or Anderson in same category at Parelli. Even his (PP)
articles in ride magazine showed very dangerous, stupid stuff (riding
horse into back of trailer with no helmet on rider); person following a
horse on the ground, walking right at it's butt, with the leadrope in the
person's teeth! The advertisement that truly pissed me off was a small
child, jumping bareback on a pony with NO HELMET!!!
It is easily
learned and pertinent stuff -and it reduces fear immensely when new horse
people see that a horse will respond to them so well. Anything that
decreases fear is always worth a look. Not everything new needs to be
dismissed - not every change is bad.
*Fine, if he eliminates the
dangerous, stupid stuff.
When it coms to horse handling, the majority
of people out there could benefit from a little more understanding and a
few more 'techniques" in their library...
*Obviously, no
argument there.
*Lets see, current horse, age 4, "Parelli" trained.
Needed work loading and unloading, didn't pick up feet without kicking at
me, didn't know word "ho", disrespectful by crowding....skittish to
saddle, hard to bridle.......what am I missing here? Every darn
horse I have bought with some "Parelli training" has had to be retrained.
And, if I see a horse for sale advertised with Parelli training, I
know I will have to retrain that horse....
I could not even get
this guy to move his hindquarters over with light hand cue (to teach him
to do it-disingague hindquarders) in order to learn leg cue. If you
even looked at his hind end, or feet, he would move them....what the heck
use is that? I often SCRUTINIZE, and look at hard, legs, feet, way
of going. I don't want the horse moving away just from me LOOKING
at him, I want him to wait for a verbal or touch cue.
Again, useless waste of time, no usefull application I can
see.....
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