A horse that is "Parelli" trained
is not disrespectful, rude or dangerous-- the whole point of the system is the
opposite- I have had great success with his level one stuff as have
quite a few of my friends. Parrelli has not reinvented the wheel here-
his stuff is basically good horsemanship/training practices, all he has done
is to market them in a package that explains in simple,easy terms the basics
of training- instead of learning the hard way over 30 years!
*I am not saying everything he is teaching is
wrong or bad; you are exactly right in that it is
all packaged....the good and bad....I am not
claiming to know everything, but sure didn't take me
30 years to learn common sense horse handling!
Gosh, my sister and I, ages 14 and 16 basically
reformed a somewhat wild and spooky mare into a
useful horse without any "Parelli Package", by
combinations of good doses of COMMON SENSE and
reading every horse book in library....gee, we put this together in a year or
so....but all the good training Parelli teaches is, in my book, no excuse for
all the dangerous stuff!
If you have a horse that did not move
over with very little pressure there is no way anyone was doing Parelli with
him- just because someone say's he is trained that way doesn't make it so!!
I think the name/system is starting to get thrown around with people
having very little idea of what they are talking about. ( I mean this in
general.)
*Horse came from Parelli
traiing.....
I agree with you about the child w/out a
helmet, write them a letter! However I have yet to see a picture of a western
child or adult doing barrel racing- steer roping etc.. with a helmet on
either.
*What does Western rider with no helmet (also
unsafe and stupid) have anything to do with justifying what Parelli is
teaching and charging $$$ for?
*Karen
Chrystal
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I
am not a Parelli fan, probably see too many "Parelli"trained horses that
I felt were dangerous and disrespectful..you see people doing things
with horses willy nilly....standing on their backs (falling off!),
jumping bareback, no bridles, with NO HELMETS!, standing on horses lying
down, bridling from their KNEES??? Come on, all very unsafe
practices....
I am concerned though when people dismiss these teaching
programs with comments like the above. The idea of the
Parelli/Lyons/Anderson programs to is teach riders to connect with their
horses instead of just treating them as mounts, and to learn ways of
interacting with them which actually makes life much safer.
*Yes, but
these guys did not "invent" desentising horses, or working
with them.....and still no justification for the unsafe stuff.
How
many of these NASA trained Arabs would benefit with some desentization work
- Walmart bags on the end of carrot sticks flung aound their heads for a
few rounds might go a long way to reduce their airflight time.
*Does
that mean we need to buy a $$$$$ carrot stick?
These programs suggest
ways to work with your horses that make them safer not more disrespectful.
I have seen a lot of obnoxious horses, but none who have had owners
who've spent time with them on the ground, doing the work taught in these
seminars.
*Sorry, I have. Many common sense ways to work with
horses to make then safer.
Which is more safe - a horse that throws
his head to the sky every time you try to bridle him - sometimes taking
your arm out of socket doing so - or a horse that drops his head - even to
the point where you can be on your knees to put one on? Riding without a
bridle is the ultimate connection with a horse - not to be done without
prior teaching of course, but why would one criticize this type of learning
that results in a deeper affinity for your equine friend? Why would
anyone need a helmet on to do ground work? I don't understand these
criticisms.
*Boy, lets see.....riding with a bridle is lovely...no
criticism of that...but what about rider on horse with no bridle, no
helmet? Don't need helmet for ground work, unless you are doing some
very dangerous like kneeling right in front of the horse to bridle it.....I
do not do Parelli work but my horses are lovely to bridle. Why would
anyone even need to bridle their horse from their knees???
These
"celebrities" do have their groupies, of course, Parelli more than most.
But he is a showman - and spends a lot of time making the system
fun and entertaining. His program still works.
*Again, not
what I have seen or experienced.
Anderson gets to the meat quick with
much ado- good solid info there, mate. I have found that the techniques and
tips I gathered from these 3 gurus (which can be found on RFDTV and in
magazines, you don't have to pay a lot of money to learn about them) to be
excellent tools for passing on at 4H meetings and with new or young
riders.
*I totally do not put Lyons or Anderson in same category at
Parelli. Even his (PP) articles in ride magazine showed very
dangerous, stupid stuff (riding horse into back of trailer with no helmet
on rider); person following a horse on the ground, walking right at it's
butt, with the leadrope in the person's teeth! The advertisement that truly
pissed me off was a small child, jumping bareback on a pony with NO
HELMET!!!
It is easily learned and pertinent stuff -and it reduces fear
immensely when new horse people see that a horse will respond to them so
well. Anything that decreases fear is always worth a look. Not
everything new needs to be dismissed - not every change is bad.
*Fine,
if he eliminates the dangerous, stupid stuff.
When it coms to horse
handling, the majority of people out there could benefit from a little more
understanding and a few more 'techniques" in their
library...
*Obviously, no argument there.
*Lets see,
current horse, age 4, "Parelli" trained. Needed work loading and unloading,
didn't pick up feet without kicking at me, didn't know word
"ho", disrespectful by crowding....skittish to saddle, hard to
bridle.......what am I missing here? Every darn horse I have bought
with some "Parelli training" has had to be retrained. And, if I see a
horse for sale advertised with Parelli training, I know I will have to
retrain that horse....
I could not even get this guy to move his
hindquarters over with light hand cue (to teach him to do it-disingague
hindquarders) in order to learn leg cue. If you even looked at his
hind end, or feet, he would move them....what the heck use is that? I
often SCRUTINIZE, and look at hard, legs, feet, way of going. I don't
want the horse moving away just from me LOOKING at him, I want him to wait
for a verbal or touch cue. Again, useless waste of time, no usefull
application I can
see.....
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