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Beverly, 

Thank you for bringing all this up. You've mixed email (SMTP Protocols)
and Web (HTTP Protocols). They are very different and both have
secure/open versions. In addition, the instant messaging (using either
proprietary (MSN/IRC/AOL etc. protocols) and Text Messaging (SMS on cell
phones) are different yet. (there is also NNTP - network news Protocols).

But all that aside, enduranceNet (HTTP), ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (SMTP)
and the ridecamp archives (also HTTP) are, and have always been, openly
accessible on the net. there was  time b/f I started masking out the
email addresses from the archival ridecamp messages, that I restricted
the google indexing of the archives (and I think 2000-2002 are still not
indexed by google for that reason). But there seemed to be little need to
restrict the indexes when there were no email addresses in there (plus,
the email scavengers didn't honor the robots.txt directives
anyway...).

Steph has thought about restricting the archives to only registered users
via userid/password mechanisms(and dumping the guest message stuff), but
it hasn't happened yet. It may sometime, but unless there is some great
burning need, it's not likely to be soon.

So yes, your tracks are out there and your posts to ridecamp will go to
the (roughly 3000) people who receive direct email deliveries and they
will be converted to web pages so that anyone interested can go read
them. Be polite!! 

jt.
    


At 08:38 AM 5/3/2006, Beverley H. Kane, MD wrote:
> A bit OT, yet worthwhile
> pointing out, b/c in my experience there's a lot of
> confusion about what's the public, unsecured Internet; an
> organizational/corporate private intranet; and a
> business-to-business
> private extranet. And no one should be concerned about secure
> messaging
> one's healthcare providers just b/c RC is public.
>
> Ridecamp "e-mail" is by choice of the administrators publicly
> accessible.
> There is no password-protected login needed to read it; messages go over
> the
> public internet; and our words are exposed unto eternity to anyone with
> a
> web browser.
>
> "Secure messaging" is different from "e-mail." It is
> used for transactions
> such as home banking, communicating over a hospital/clinic/doctor's
> website,
> and e-commerce on Amazon and e-Bay. SM is not exposed publicly and
> is
> theoretically (with notable newsworthy exceptions) tightly private
> and
> secure. If you look in the address bar of your browser and it says
> "https"
> (the "s" stands for "secure") instead of just
> "http," it's a good bet you're
> in a secure messaging environment and your communication is
> private.
>
> Ridecamp could move to a secure extranet model. Or we could all be much
> more
> continent and considerate and conscious of our communication for
> public
> posterity.
>
> Beverley
> Woodside, CA
> AERC #33689
> 1993-5 chair, American Medical Informatics Assn Internet Working
> Group
> author, "Guidelines for the Clinical Use of Electronic Mail With
> Patients"
> http://www.amia.org/mbrcenter/pubs/email_guidelines.asp
>
>
> On 4/30/06 11:40 PM, "k s swigart"
> <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> It's like saying "What's your problem?  Timbuktu
> was
> >> always publically-accesible!" after a Star Trek
> transporter
> >> has been invented.
> > 
> > Indeed, it is exactly like saying that. What IS your problem? 
> Google
> > seems to have made it easier for people who are interested in
> the
> > information provided on Ridecamp to find it.  So
> what?!?!?!
> > 
> > kat
> > Orange County, Calif.
>
>
>
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