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Re: [RC] Bird flu joke? - Mary Ann Spencer

Freezing doesn't kill anything, only stops the growth until it is thawed.  You can get cholera from ice cubes frozen with contaminated water. 
 
There tends to be a knee jerk reaction to things.  From what I have read, those humans who contacted bird flu had extra close contact with the birds, ie lots of direct time as well as 'playing' with the bird, as in the case of the children. 
 
Guess this is going to raise the cost of all chicken products?  Heck, there is a burp in any place of the oil industry and the cost per gallon of gas goes up fifteen cents!!!!!  There are times that instant info seems to be overreacted to. 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Bird flu joke?

Hopefully the American experience will be better than the Egyptian 
but I'm not sure I'd want to count on it knowing how the press really 
loves winding the public up. At BF arrival plus a week here, it's 
really hard to find fresh chicken in the grocery stores. You can find 
frozen chicken (and why would this be ok and not fresh? Probably 
because the company in question runs automated slaughterhouses and 
packing plants so there is less worry about human contact but also 
less humans to know if something is wrong with a bird. Does freezing 
kill a virus...somehow I doubt it.)

The police went house to house in the city demanding that all birds 
be destroyed. Not all chickens or ducks, all birds. If you owned a 
pet bird and it lived outside, it was toast. I know one woman who 
lost a lot of very loved pet birds. They've done that to a certain 
extent here in the farming area and someone came to my home because 
he'd heard that I own birds while I was out. My housekeeper, standing 
in a pack of 10 dogs including a Dalmation, a Great Dane and a 
shepherd mix, informed him that since Madame wasn't home she couldn't 
let him in. A friend arranged that he will not be returning. I have 6 
parrots ranging in age from 12 to 20 years old who live in an aviary 
with 3 chickens. The chickens are ultimately disposable, but the 
parrots are not. None of them are in any danger because there is no 
traffic with any other birds than house sparrows and to the best of 
my knowledge they don't carry BF.

Many of the farmers have slaughtered their poultry and eaten them 
rather than have the army or police confiscate them...and eat them. 
How these families will live without the protein from the eggs and 
poultry, I don't know. Everyone here talks about when the flu "goes 
away" but I haven't seen anything to indicate that it will go away.  
At some point they will want more poultry.

There were reports that dead chickens had been dumped into the Nile 
early on and people panicked, stocking up on bottled water and food. 
The virus doesn't survive in water so there was no danger to the 
drinking water other than the usual one we have in the cities where 
the pipes are all old and cracked and there is cross contamination 
from sewage and drinking water, so you don't want to drink it 
anyway.  It's chlorinated up the wazoo as well to overcome the 
contamination issues, so it tastes nasty.

Between bureaucracy and idiocy and journalists, you're in for a rocky 
ride.  Just watch people netting off barns or shooting the dangerous 
swallows or.....the mind simply boggles at the nonsense that happens 
when The Deadly Bird Flu arrives in your neighbourhood.  But other 
than that I haven't noticed any changes. No dead birds, my horses are 
fine and I ride all over as usual without problems.

Maryanne
in Bird Flu Land

On Mar 11, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Marv Walker wrote:

> I realize that the bird flu post was a joke but as one
> who has seen some things in my time, I wonder...
>
> When the bird flu gets here, and it will, how will it
> affect your life and activities?  What will it do to
> the sport and the keeping of animals or for that matter
> life in general?
>
> We already have the NAIS knee jerk reaction to BF and
> terrorism to contend with.  Am I the only one concerned
> about widespread stupidity and how it will affect me?
>
> Marv "Excuse me while I go bleach down the yard." Walker
> Horse Info & Training Videos ~ http://MarvWalker.com
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