Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members

["Dabney Finch" <dabneyesq@cs.com>]

That's not a stupid question at all, and the answer is "yes."  As Barbara
McCrary (& others) have pointed out, all AERC can do is take away points and
ban the rider from AERC rides.
So, instead of berating AERC for not doing enough--call the District
Attorney's office!

Dabney Finch
AERC #7826
CA State Bar #171171

----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica Spoone <lady_selene@hotmail.com>
To: ridecamp <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members


> Ok This is probably a really stupid question but if somebody rides their
> horse to death wouldn't that be an animal abuse charge? Aerc wouldn't even
> have to come into it the actual court system would handle it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barbara McCrary <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>
> To: Nancy Mitts <mitts_n@hotmail.com>
> Cc: RIDECAMP <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:15 AM
> Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
>
>
> > It can be a nuisance from the ride manager's standpoint.  Our recent
ride
> > had three non-members.....two paid their $10, the third thought she was
a
> > member, but the office said she had not renewed.  I have to go after the
> > $10, which I will do on principle.  But it isn't the biggest problem in
> ride
> > management.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nancy Mitts" <mitts_n@hotmail.com>
> > To: <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>; <hwb67@msn.com>
> > Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:42 AM
> > Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> >
> >
> > > And the funny thing is not more than a month ago some ride managers
were
> > > complaining that it was just too hard to figure out who was already a
> > > member. There were quite a few posts on this list advocating dropping
> the
> > > $10 day membership requirement. My how quick the worm turns.
> > > Nancy Mitts
> > > AERC # 8558
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>
> > > >To: "Howard Bramhall" <hwb67@msn.com>
> > > >CC: "RIDECAMP" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > > >Subject: RC:  Re: Re:  Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> > > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:22:50 -0700
> > > >
> > > >That's exactly what the $10 fee does......allows a non-member to be
an
> > AERC
> > > >member for the duration of that weekend.
> > > >
> > > >Barbara McCrary
> > > >West region director
> > > >Chair, Rules Committee
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Howard Bramhall
> > > >   To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> > > >   Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:35 AM
> > > >   Subject: RC: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Why not require that anyone doing a ride of 50 miles or greater
be
> a
> > > >member
> > > >     of AERC?  That would at least give us some leverage.
> > > >
> > > >     Cindy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     I think another option would be that the ten dollars you pay at
a
> > ride
> > > >for not being a member of AERC actually makes you a member for that
> ride
> > > >week-end.  You sign a legal paper stating such at the ride.  That way
> you
> > > >are subject to the rules and penalties of AERC. And your ten dollars
> goes
> > > >to the full year fee if you want to join permanently.
> > > >
> > > >     Sounds too easy, and probably won't turn out to be so, when the
> > > >lawyers get hold of it.  Reality always seems to make things more
> > difficult
> > > >than it should be.
> > > >
> > > >     cya,
> > > >     Howard
> > >
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