Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members

["Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>]

How does ANYONE prove a horse was ridden to death?  Long ago on one of our
rides, a horse dropped dead, suddenly, at the bottom of a steep hill at
about 25 miles from the start. The rider had been going at a moderate pace
(witnessed) throughout the ride and was walking the horse down the hill at
the time.  A later post-mortem revealed the horse had blown an artery in his
lungs, due to parasitism in his earlier years.  So.....someone could say the
rider had "ridden his horse to death", but the death in this case was not
due to the rider having overridden the horse.  We'd all better be careful
where we point the finger, especially when we don't have all the facts.  It
could happen to any of us, at any time.  Death happens.....we don't always
have control over it.  The obvious abuser is a different matter.

Barbara McCrary
West region director
Chair, Rules Committee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jessica Spoone" <lady_selene@hotmail.com>
To: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:59 AM
Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members


> Ok This is probably a really stupid question but if somebody rides their
> horse to death wouldn't that be an animal abuse charge? Aerc wouldn't even
> have to come into it the actual court system would handle it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barbara McCrary <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>
> To: Nancy Mitts <mitts_n@hotmail.com>
> Cc: RIDECAMP <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:15 AM
> Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
>
>
> > It can be a nuisance from the ride manager's standpoint.  Our recent
ride
> > had three non-members.....two paid their $10, the third thought she was
a
> > member, but the office said she had not renewed.  I have to go after the
> > $10, which I will do on principle.  But it isn't the biggest problem in
> ride
> > management.
> >
> > Barbara
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nancy Mitts" <mitts_n@hotmail.com>
> > To: <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>; <hwb67@msn.com>
> > Cc: <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:42 AM
> > Subject: RC: Re: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> >
> >
> > > And the funny thing is not more than a month ago some ride managers
were
> > > complaining that it was just too hard to figure out who was already a
> > > member. There were quite a few posts on this list advocating dropping
> the
> > > $10 day membership requirement. My how quick the worm turns.
> > > Nancy Mitts
> > > AERC # 8558
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Barbara McCrary" <bigcreekranch@cruzio.com>
> > > >To: "Howard Bramhall" <hwb67@msn.com>
> > > >CC: "RIDECAMP" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
> > > >Subject: RC:  Re: Re:  Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> > > >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:22:50 -0700
> > > >
> > > >That's exactly what the $10 fee does......allows a non-member to be
an
> > AERC
> > > >member for the duration of that weekend.
> > > >
> > > >Barbara McCrary
> > > >West region director
> > > >Chair, Rules Committee
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Howard Bramhall
> > > >   To: ridecamp@endurance.net
> > > >   Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:35 AM
> > > >   Subject: RC: Re: Re: Charges only pertain to AERC members
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     Why not require that anyone doing a ride of 50 miles or greater
be
> a
> > > >member
> > > >     of AERC?  That would at least give us some leverage.
> > > >
> > > >     Cindy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >     I think another option would be that the ten dollars you pay at
a
> > ride
> > > >for not being a member of AERC actually makes you a member for that
> ride
> > > >week-end.  You sign a legal paper stating such at the ride.  That way
> you
> > > >are subject to the rules and penalties of AERC. And your ten dollars
> goes
> > > >to the full year fee if you want to join permanently.
> > > >
> > > >     Sounds too easy, and probably won't turn out to be so, when the
> > > >lawyers get hold of it.  Reality always seems to make things more
> > difficult
> > > >than it should be.
> > > >
> > > >     cya,
> > > >     Howard
> > >
> > >
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