Re: [RC] Bylaws Ammendment - Lucy Chaplin TrumbullApril wrote: > I really think that resident aliens should be allowed > to vote and have a say... If you "really think that", then why do you seem to be going out of your way to make sure it doesn't happen? > If we vote to change the by-law ammendment to the way it has been > proposed...to include the resident aliens, things will die down.. > ...Then we'll have to start providing ID when > registering, renewing, voting, and riding. Ok, fine, if we want to > add rules and procedures to do that. But we need to think about it > instead of just making patchwork fixes. I guess I don't see why this should be so, or why you think this is a "patchwork fix". It's a simple, common-sense thing: If you are a US citizen/resident alien, you have a US address and get to vote. And, as Maryanne has pointed out, if you *don't* have a US address, then you can't get EN, let alone a ballot. Contrary to some people's opinions, I doubt that AERC is riddled with illegal aliens with US addresses. To stay in this country illegally for any period of time (i.e. long enough to bother joining AERC) you have to stay below the radar - which usually means having a minimum wage job. People on minimum wage don't tend to have the money to pay for horse feed/shoes, let alone AERC m'ship, etc. Ipso facto, you can probably safely assume that if someone is an AERC member with a US address, they are probably legal. You seem to be doing your best to prevent legislation going through that: a) doesn't affect you in any way b) does affect a small number of AERC members who should legitimately be allowed to vote. I figure the biggest problem with this amendment is that it affects so few people that the majority of members won't bother to vote, so it won't pass just because of apathy (be interesting to see if this turns out to be the case). Most of the vocal posts on the subject seem to reflect a "no vote" (but are also mostly based on incorrect assumptions or misunderstanding the issue). * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Lucy Chaplin Trumbull elsie@xxxxxxxxxxxx Repotted english person in Sierra Foothills, California * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.endurance.net/ads/seabiscuit.html Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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