Re: RC: Time Out

[Kelsey M <appyhehehorses@yahoo.com>]

Well said Ti. You have put me in my place. I guess
I'll have to do so more growing up of my own.  Like I
said, I may be a stupid teenager (which I've come to
the conclusion that I am).

The arguments/debates/discussions, whatever you want
to call them, are interesting to watch. I just don't
see why you have to go back and forth calling each
other ridiculous names, using stupid threats, or
junvenile language. 

Perhaps it would be easier for me to accept if I were
older, with more experience. I'm living my life, so
maybe one day I will be able to comprehend your
arguments and use of words. For now I'll remain where
I am.

Question:

Does life, people, and the disisions we make, seem
more real, or make beter sense as we get older?

Much to Learn, 
Kelsey

--- Tivers@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/19/99 7:33:12 PM Pacific
> Standard Time, 
> appyhehehorses@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> <<  may be just a stupid teenager, but I know when
> to
>  lay off. We need to half respect for each other,
> and
>  go about our discussions without blowing up at
>  nothing.
>  I personally am embarassed by some of you. The
>  resonalbe ones are not here to baby sit the ones
> that
>  like to talk and talk and talk then pat them selves
> on
>  the back for all the crap they put on others.
>   >>
> 
> 
> Bbbbut don't you see? Your post, itself, is
> inflammatory and name-calling. 
> The scolding mommy syndrome so prevalent here. The
> more of these posted, the 
> more I am embarrassed to be part of a group where
> such illogic is so 
> pervasive. 
> 
> Meanwhile, the way to get over thee flareups, if you
> really care about what 
> is being said here, is to offer civilized comment on
> the actual substance of 
> the conversations. Amidst all the mud-throwing,
> there is still that kind of 
> discussion going on. Jump in.
> 
> It is my policy to respond to all posts that refer
> to me, be they 
> inflammatory or solid discussion. And I respond in
> kind--that means if you 
> want to call me a name, I'll respond with direct
> criticism of you--if there's 
> anything to criticise. In your case, it's a simple
> lack of elementary logic. 
> 
> Actually, it goes deeper in many cases. People who
> feel inadequate to 
> participate in a discussion lie in wait for an
> opportunity to pounce upon the 
> irrelevant and easily-postured issues--morality,
> humanity, political 
> correctness, etc. Stances they know will draw
> applause from masses of 
> non-thinkers--and votes, if you're playing politics
> in this mode. 
> 
> But, to anyone with a brain, this approach to
> interchanges is shallow and 
> transparent. Sophomooric. It's not an effective way
> out of an argument, nor 
> is it a decent entry for folks who can't find
> anything else to say but want 
> desperately to participate in lively debate. It's
> plain irrelavant and 
> absurd. 
> 
> As far as advancing the educational value of the
> list is concerned, all you 
> have to do is ask a reasonably intelligent question
> and you'll get a 
> truckload of reasonably intelligent answers--and you
> may even start a war you 
> can sit back and learn from in huge dollops of
> hastily assembled and ardently 
> defended stacks of fact and opinion. 
> 
> Your offering, above, is trite, transparent, shallow
> and useless--even though 
> it may fall into someone else's defnition of
> Christmas spirit. Since the two 
> of you are in fast agreement, I predict years of
> enjoyment passing emails 
> back and forth in private. In fact, there is an
> entire moral indignation 
> group here. The question in my mind is, what in the
> world of substance are 
> you going to talk about? Feelings? Favorite colors? 
> 
> ti      
> 


=====
To My Horses: Horses are my life, horses are me, horses are the answer, the key. Without them I'd perish, no friends, no life with which to live. Them, always will I cherish, their love, and what they give. Horses are my life, horses are my way. And never will the day come, that I'd throw one way. They come, and go like the weather, but leave a mark in my heart that will stay forever. My boys, I love! ~Kelsey
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