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>
>
>ridecamp-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 40
>
>Today's Topics:
> RE: Big Horn/Sharon Saare Saddles
> Re: Big Horn vs SS (and Orthoflex)
> Re: Introductions
> Re: how do you do it?
> Re: how do you do it?
> Re: Magnetic Field Therapy
> Re: Feeding/Conditioning
> More Saddle opinions
> Re: how do you do it?
> Re: Non-typical endurance horses
> Endurance related gear catalog
> Re: Endurance related gear catalog
>
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>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 21:54:24 UT
>From: "Connie Hoge" <pvtevt@msn.com>
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net, "Roberta Lieberman" <rlieberman@phillips.com>
>Subject: RE: Big Horn/Sharon Saare Saddles
>Message-Id: <UPMAIL07.199701212221500465@msn.com>
>
>----------
>From: Roberta Lieberman
>Sent: Monday, January 20, 1997 8:47 AM
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Big Horn/Sharon Saare Saddles
>
> Hello ridecampers,
> I need your input.
> At a local tack shop this weekend I found a Big Horn endurance saddle,
> 15 1/2 inches, barely used. I brought it home on a three-day trial. It
> seemed to fit my mare well, and I liked riding in it: close contact,
> good leg position, etc. Fine Print seemed quite comfortable in it and
> moved out in a long relaxed frame. Everything was great -- until I
> stuck my hand under the tree along the back of the saddle on each
> side, and noted a slight difference in pressure. Pressure was evenly
> distributed on the right side, but I was aware of a ridge on the left.
> We began to examine the saddle more closely to see if there was any
> visible asymmetry in the tree -- it was hard to tell with all of the
> fleece. Nothing definitive.
>
> Okay gang, please give me the scoop on these saddles: are they
> generally reliable? How are they regarded? How do they compare to the
> Sharon Saare? Thanks for your help!
>
> Bobbie Lieberman in Maryland
> and Fine Print (wondering what all the fuss is about)
>
>
>Bobbie,
>
>Don't think you can compare them. Big Horns, are O.K. for general trail
>riding - if they fit the horse. Having owned two when we were starting out,
>found them to be tight over the withers, with a tendency to ride too far
>forward. Also, after a couple years of CTR, nails started to pop thru on the
>bottom under the fleece.
>
>My 2cents
>Connie Hoge
>pvtevt@msn.com
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:11:35 -0500 (EST)
>From: CMikeT@aol.com
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: Big Horn vs SS (and Orthoflex)
>Message-ID: <970121141134_1624583772@emout15.mail.aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 97-01-20 18:44:36 EST, Wrecksduke@aol.com writes:
>
><< My husband has an Orthoflex saddle (Western type - not endurance), he
>likes it very much. Mike Tomlinson, DVM notes some rubbing on the endurance
>horses though... as they build up more muscle (?)... that he attributes to
>the
> design of the Orthoflexs. I just heard that Orthoflex is trimming the tree
> back even more (didn't they already do that once for Arabs), but don't know
> if that's true or if its just for their endurance models. Anybody out there
> heard more on this? Mike - anything you want to add? >>
>
>
>Melody,
>
>Since I have been named specifically I think I better quit lurking on this
>one.
>
>Just as not every horse is right for every rider, not every saddle is right
>for every horse. As horses gain and lose weight and/or muscle, the best
>fitting saddle will also necessarily be different. Orthoflex is the best
>saddle for some riders on some horses. On your horse, although your
>Orthoflex fit him well in the past, it no longer does so.
>
>At the last two rides I attended (one I vetted, one I rode), I was pleased to
>see a dramatic change in a horse that was not doing well at the first ride.
> By the end of the ride the horse was tired and appeared leg weary. I
>advised that the saddle did not fit well. The next ride she had a different
>saddle and the horse went on to finish Best Conditioned!
>
>The fit of the saddle is extremely important for endurance riders. Most
>other sports can get away with poorly fitting saddles and never affect the
>performance; endurance cannot. Just as important, the saddle which is
>perfect at the first ride of the season will not remain best throughout the
>season as the horse's physique changes.
>
>Just my 2c. Individual responses direct encouraged.
>
>Sincerely,
> Mike
>
>
>C. Mike Tomlinson, DVM
>CMikeT@AOL.com
>Yucaipa, So Calif
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 11:15:44 EST
>From: "Bonnie Snodgrass" <snodgrab@ncr.disa.mil>
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: Introductions
>Message-Id: <9700218538.AA853874533@ncr.disa.mil>
>
> I haven't had to worry about lights for night riding yet but I can
> tell you that a couple of local riders use these small flourescent
> lights, one brand may be Coleman, that they hang from the horses
> breastcollar. It doesn't creat shadows or glare that can confuse the
> horse and doesn't swing around as you turn your head.
>
> For your slipping rump rug it is really simple to sew on a tail cord
> and possibly additional straps and snaps.
>
>Bonnie Snodgrass
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
_________________________________
>Kathy in part wrote:
>
>1) Any recommendations on a rump rug? I want one that is waterproof but
>not heavily insulated, and that drapes well and/or has some means of staying
>"centered". The one I have is waterproof, but also so warm that my horse
>will overheat under it. It also does not drape well or have a tail strap or
>something to keep it centered, so it is continually flopping over to one
>side. It is such a pain I hardly ever use it.
>
>2) Any recommendations on a helmet light? (Not something I worried about
>in CTR!) I have heard that there are lightweight ones and waterproof ones,
>and that you must sacrifice one for the other. Any good compromises?
>
>Thanks for any & all help!
>
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> Camp Hill, PA
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>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:23:45 -0800
>From: "Susan F. Evans" <suendavid@worldnet.att.net>
>To: tina hicks <hickst@puzzler.nichols.com>
>CC: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: how do you do it?
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>tina hicks wrote:
>>
>> What kinds of things do you do before leaving home that make setting up
>> camp, vetting in and getting stuff ready for the checks easier once you
>> arrive at a ride??
>
>
>What I found works for me is to have everything organized to the point
>of retentiveness before I ever leave home. For example, electrolytes
>are already mixed and in syringes and taped so they don't leak, saddle
>is ABSOLUTELY cleaned, fresh pads put on, heart monitor bag clipped to
>d-rings, trail necessities already in cantle bag. Stuff to send to
>check is in a labeled bag, ready to go. Clothing for Saturday morning
>is also put into it's own bag, stuffed inside sleeping bag, along with
>not-clothing things you might need to get you going---contact lens
>solution, sunscreen, baby powder, etc. It also helps if at all possible
>to have some things that live in your trailer and never get pillaged
>while at home---ie a lunge line, medical kit, spare leg wraps, a basic
>tool kit. Whatever I need just before I go (leg wraps, halter, etc.)
>are laid out right next to Cato's stall so I don't have to go here and
>there gathering things up. And make a list of EVERYTHING you will need
>and check it off the night before---I didn't do this ONCE and sure
>enough, showed up at a ride without a girth for the saddle. It was a
>weird size for an OF, not another one in camp, so had to drive back home
>to get it and started the ride already exhausted from no sleep.
>
>Any of my friends will tell you I'm a fairly disorganized person, but
>this is one area where the more exhaustively you organize well before
>you leave, the more relaxed you'll be on Friday.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Susan Evans
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:19:59 -0800
>From: bechack@cnsii.com (Rebecca Hackworth)
>To: tina hicks <hickst@puzzler.nichols.com>
>Cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: how do you do it?
>Message-ID: <19970121071957960.AAA166@client_86_80.cnsii.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>At 05:03 PM 1/20/97 -0600, you wrote:
>>What kinds of things do you do before leaving home that make setting up
>>camp, vetting in and getting stuff ready for the checks easier once you
>>arrive at a ride??
>>
>>I ask because no matter how organized I *think* I am when I leave I always
>>seem to in a tizzy Friday afternoon getting stuff together and am usually
>>finishing up after the riders meeting....It's not that I forget much -- I
>>just seem to have trouble getting all my poop together once I'm there :-)
>>
>>Tina - tired of running around like a chicken with her head cut off before a
>>ride (where did that saying come from, anyway?)
>>Tony - please, someone, settle her down
>>hickst@nichol.scom
>>
>As soon as we get there, the horses come out, and streatch there legs. then
>I set up the hay bags. If the ride has been over 4 hours, I give a bran
>mash. If we are lucky enough to get there before the vets, we have even
>been able to go out for a short ride.
>
>I have a 55 gal barrel in the front of my trailer filled with water. I fill
>the water buckets before anything else.
>
>
>
>A tack trunk that fits in my camper. After I get there, the trunk goes into
>the trailer. I have one of those moveable tack rack, and hang up all of my
>bridles, breast collars, etc.
>
>I set up a chair, and sit for 15-30 minutes. After I make sure the horses
>are settled in, I go check us in.
>
>Depending on the time it is and the time of the ride meeting, we mill around
>and enjoy.
>
>Camp is my camper, one or two tables and a piece of astro turf. In the
>summer, I set up a shade canopy. It has proved very useful. If I have more
>than one Daughter ( I have 3 that ride with me at times ) We will set up the
>new tent. That only takes about 30 minutes.
>
>By then it is time to Vet in. We vet and then feed US.
>
>I used to get more elaborate with camp, but it wasn't worth the set up/down
>time.
>
>Becky Hackworth
>
>Would love to hear others ideas.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:50:04 -0500 (EST)
>From: VMAXEPT@aol.com
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: Magnetic Field Therapy
>Message-ID: <970121005003_2090822493@emout16.mail.aol.com>
>
>In a message dated 96-12-17 12:58:50 EST, katswig@deltanet.com (K S Swigart)
>writes:
>
>>>
> In all your experimenting with alternative therapies, have you had the
> opportunity to use those "magnetic blankets?"
> >> Is the size of the blanket, placement
> of the magnets relevant. (Or have you found them to do anything at all??)
> >>
>kat all
>use of magnetic blankets and wraps.. as far as i know aerc does not prevent
>this..i know a number of riders who use then at vet checks..
>i thought at one time they were not allowed.. but no-one has said anything to
>the rider(s) who i have seen using them.
>
>we all know there are 2 types .. static and active..electromagnetics..
>
>do they work ?? well.. no cites /papered research .. just my normal
>observations and other comments from riders.
>
>these products do work.. i used tape magnets and hard disk magnets on my
>horses pastern.. damaged and determined not to be useable or fully sound
>again..that was 2 years ago..
>i taped them on for 24 hours and off for 24. did this for about 2 months..
>we also used legiond iv, adaquen, and other alternate methods.
>
>the spur was about the size of my full thumb, ringbone was starting...now
>the spur is about the size of the end of my little finger.
>
>what do the magnets do? ..increase the blood flow. this happens because the
>magnets will charge the cells like polarize them ..they line up and incease
>cellular motion of flow, sort of like that anyway.. this allows the for
>increased blood flow, reduce inflamation.. you can actually feel heat
>increase in the area of the magnet.
>
>in this case aided the abosorbtion of the ca deposit. the ring bone cannot be
>felt.. i have not done another x-ray.. do plan on that. he is soumd and going
>back to work this week..
>we shall see.
>
>magnetic blankets will increase cellular activity, increase blood flow in the
>area of placement and increase energy flow in the area of the body
>meridians..
>
>the static blankets will work but take long. they cost less and you can make
>your own..
>the electro-mag blankets are very costly.. but work faster. they use a pulsed
>field in a pattern to produce the desired effect. i cant afford one yet..or
>justify it
>but those that use them really see a difference.
>you can get static wraps from norfields.. costly.. and not too strong.. but
>they work as far as i am concerned.. i use them on me too ..of course..
>
>i am going to make one from an old horse sheet.
>get a box of 2 and 3 inch round ferrite magnets from radio shack or edmound
>scientific comp.. they also have sheets of high power tape magnets..you can
>cut them up in strips..
>sew the magnets onto the horse sheet.. put them over the back ,loins across
>the shoulders, over areas that are sore..and along the medrian lines...
>not all that critical.. you can look at one of the commerical ones to get an
>idea when to place the magnets..
>i hope to get mine done soon.. be interesting to see how it works.
>
>Roger R
>VMAXEPT
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:05:22 -0400
>From: truman.prevatt@netsrq.com (Truman Prevatt)
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: Feeding/Conditioning
>Message-Id: <v01540b01af0a7b84bdd4@[198.252.56.93]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>>-- [ From: ROBERT J MORRIS * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
>>
>>
>>While I agree with Wendy's concept and programs that she has propounded for
>>endurance horses in feeding and conditioning I do wish to offer the
>>following caution:
>>
>>EACH HORSE IS AN INDIVIDUAL!!!
>
>>STARTING GUIDELINES!!!
>
>>
>>THERE IS NO ONE SOLUTION!!!
>>
>
>>Have at me now
>>
>Gee, I think this is right on. One of the prime benefits of LSD is to
>learn your horse. Each horse is very different. A personal example.
>Misty is a walking horse with a resting heart rate of 28. She has an easy
>6 mph walk and a 8 to 9 mph "head the yankees off at Shiloh" walk. She has
>a very good gallop but a lously trot. Her strengths are the gallop and the
>fast walk. Here I am using the term gallop very looely to cover the lope,
>canter and hand gallop. Do I train her by trotting long distances - heck
>no I train her by galloping the hills and developing the fast walk. LSD
>with her tranlated to fast walking and slow galloping. Do I train her with
>other people - again no since the pace I set is different than that others
>set. Dan is a big Arab with a resting heart rate of 30. He has a big trot
>a nice fast walk (for an Arab) and an okay gallop (I am not sure any Arab
>has a good gallop). I have to train him differently - lots of trotting and
>developing the gallop.
>
>One other thing about each horse being an individual is training partners.
>I train alone. I develop a traing plan and schedule. When I go out to
>train I have a plan. I know what I want to accomplish and I have planned a
>workout to accomplish it. When I go on a social ride, I go on a social
>ride. When I train, I train.
>
>Bob also made a very good point about where you live dictating how you
>train. I would love to have a 3000 foot mountain to go up and down, but
>since the highest point in FL is 300 feet above sea level it somewhat
>difficult to find mountains. But we do have rolling sandy hills and areas
>of deep sand. So we have to use sand to strengthen our horses. I train
>weekly in sand. Trotting and galloping up sandy hills is the only way we
>can get the heart rate up without running the legs off the horse. I am
>careful when starting a horse to walk down sandy hills. But as the horse's
>legs get more fit I will trot (and maybe even gallop a little) down the
>sandy hills. This is what we train in and the horses acclimate over time
>to the conditions.
>
>The important thing when you start a new horse is to learn your horse. The
>LSD process is a very good way to learn your horse. Once you learn your
>horse then you can start defining your own training program for each horse
>you ride.
>
>>Many persons that I observe on line here want to have the utmost in feed,
>>conditioning and training. Then they ride mid-way or less and wonder why El
>>Horso gives them a hard time. Remember when you were a teenager? Young, fit,
>>hormones raging, ready to go? Got frustrated didn't you?? Well your horse is
>>young, fit and racing to go and you say no. THINK!!!
>
>This is a good point. I recall when I was racing fit in my track days. I
>did not walk anywhere. I jogged and ran everywhere. I was so full of
>energy that I literally couldn't walk. A racing fit horse has to feel the
>same way.
>
>Truman
>
>
>
>Truman Prevatt
>Sarasota, FL
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:48:24 -0500 (EST)
>From: Wrecksduke@aol.com
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: More Saddle opinions
>Message-ID: <970121174823_748083088@emout20.mail.aol.com>
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>thought some of you might be interested in the following responses that were
>mailed directly to me (as suggested)... the authors names have been deleted
>for confidentiality reasons... just in case.
>
>1. As for the Big Horn endurance saddle, compared to the McClellan , it's
>really comfortable. I had just thought that riding 25,50+ miles was supposed
>to be painful. I
>didn't realize that the McClellan is a torture device.
>
>2. --as the proud owner of TWO Sharon Saare saddles, I have to relay
>to you how much I have grown to like these saddles for myself, and in
>particular how much they have improved all my horses' backs. I am a convert
>from Stubbens (Siegfried & Survival) and an OF Swain CT. I thought I could
>NEVER grow to like a western style endurance saddle--and I'm delighted to
>have proved myself wrong! Sharon is exceptionally knowledgeable about
>saddle fit and will move heaven and earth to see that her saddles fit your
>horse (or she won't sell you one!).
>
>All my respondents to my saddle survey have said the same thing. I have
>heard NOT ONE disparaging remark about these saddles!
>
>3. Is the SS saddle you are talking about the Sharon Sare or the Sport
>Saddle? I presently ride in a SS (Sport s Saddle). I changed from an
>Orthoflex. I had an OF Traditional and a NEW Express Lite. I loved the
>traditional and couldn't ever quite get used to the Express Lite. The
>horse I purchased last year was a very, very short backed arab and
>couldn't use either of the OFs. Sold the OFs and bought the sport
>saddle. My horses like the sport saddle. I am still getting used to
>it. They say it is much like riding bareback. Well yes in the sense
>that you are very close to the horses back and can feel so much more but
>no in that your legs go right around the barrel instead of more out in
>front of you like bareback. Just what I have found. If you do not flex
>well in the hips it is not so comfy. If you cannot at least sit
>crosslegged (indian style) comfortably for awhile I would choose another
>saddle. Just my 2cents.
>
>4. I now ride in a SportsSaddle. Previously, I tried the Orthoflex
>Endurance Cutback, Wintecs, Zes, Nice english style saddle, and SR Enduro.
> My horse was hard to fit and the only saddle that did not bother him was
>the Enduro. Even the SS made him move stifly and with a shortened stride;
>the Orthoflex caused sore shoulders, the Wintec and Nice caused soreness and
>(on a 100 mile course), caused all the hair to blister off. The ZES just
>plain didn't fit. I could have been happy with any of these saddles, except
>the Wintec endurance, which just put me in too much of a chairseat.
>
>Now I have a new horse. He and I love the SS; the seat is so soft you can
>really feel the muscles on his back and have much more influence on his way
>of going. For the first time, I feel like I'm riding the horse and not
>riding the saddle.
>
>I am responding, though, because the experiences with these two horses
>demonstrates to me that the same saddle will not fit different horses the
>same way. I suspect that horses with basically level conformation and normal
>backs do quite well with the SS, but horses with strongly downhill builds,
>uneven shoulder development, really fat, witherless builds, etc. do better
>with other types of saddles. This is just my guess based on my friends'
>reactions to trying the SS.
>
>Regards to everyone,
>Melody
>
>NB: if you think it might be of general interest, please go ahead and post
>your responses directly to the list. Thanks all for sharing your saddle
>experiences.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:40:09 -0800
>From: DreamWeaver <karen@chaton.gardnerville.nv.us>
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: how do you do it?
>Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970121034009.00692de4@mail.greatbasin.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>>What kinds of things do you do before leaving home that make setting up
>>camp, vetting in and getting stuff ready for the checks easier once you
>>arrive at a ride??
>
>I have a two page list that I check off. I have seen this list so many
>times that I dream about it! <g> One thing that I do before leaving, is I
>take those extra large ziploc baggies, and measure out my little mixture for
>the horse - which includes his LMF, dry cob, a little bran, and
>electrolytes. These bags are perfect for tossing into a crew bag or to grab
>at 3 a.m. when you are half asleep and don't have to search around in the
>dark for this and that. I put all these little bags along with my wooden
>stir spoon in a rubbermaid container. Sometimes I'll stick an exra
>flashlight in there, you can never have enough of those! (I learned a lot
>of this stuff from crewing for two very experienced riders at the Tevis a
>couple of years ago!)
>
>Inside the camper is where I keep all the stuff for mixing the electrolytes
>that I dose with. It's much easier to do it inside, with the table. I mix
>enough to dose him in the morning, and then have enough left to put in one
>or two more syringes for during the ride. I use either used yogurt
>containers or frosting containers (with lids) to mix with. That way
>whatever I don't use I can save until later. I also keep several of those
>nifty dosing syringes around (I got them from KF Tack). That way if they
>get lost here and there it's no big deal to grab a clean one. I used to use
>worming syringes, but the other ones are bigger and have a loop in the end
>to put your thumb thru so you can't lose them when sticking into the horses
>mouth. I then will put the syringe into a regular sized sandwich baggie to
>put into my pack.
>
>As far as my tack and saddle. I try to get as much ready the night before
>as possible. I take my neck ditty pouch, put my vet card and map inside it
>and use the string to tie it to my saddle so I won't forget it in the
>morning! I also stuff inside of that: kleenex, chapstick and aspirin. Then
>inside my saddle pack I will pack a couple of apples for the horse (or
>carrots), some gu for me, and if it's a cold night I'll stick my frozen
>water battles into the pack. I also try to get as much done ahead for the
>following day. For instance, I always bring plenty of buckets and at least
>two feed pans. That way I can put my large baggie full of my horsie mixture
>into a feed pan, so when I come into camp for lunch, finish, etc., I only
>have to dump the baggie out, add water and it's done. I also fill up two
>buckets full of water, put sponges in them, add my favorite ice cubes (2
>liter soda bottles filled w/ water and frozen!), and stick them under the
>side of the trailer so they stay in the shade. Then they are ready for
>sponging the horse, and nice and cool when we come in. (if it's hot).
>Then, I use the 2-liter bottle to pour the cool water over the horse after
>it melts. Works great, and best of all I don't have to buy ice that way!
>If I think I'll need ice boots I get those ready the night before as well.
>They usually have their own ice chest and go under the trailer as well. If
>it is a cold ride, I will make sure the rump rugs, coolers or blankets are
>ready on the side of the corral panels or another place depending on the
>weather conditions.
>
>Oh, one other thing I have done is add those bungee type trailer ties to
>each side of the trailer. They have quick release snaps on them, and are
>very handy wherever you may be to just walk up and tie your horse. You
>don't have to tie a lead rope that way, saves time. Also, I bring two hay
>bags and hang them up, on each side of the trailer and have bucket hooks as
>well, that way no matter what side of the trailer I happen to be one (one
>side for tacking, the other for sponging - for obvious reasons), the horse
>will have water and food available. I get this all ready ahead of time as
>well, usually as soon as I arrive. I also keep the horse knee deep in hay
>in one end of his corral, and fill up a bushel sized bucket full of water,
>and another smaller bucket (5 gal.) and mix electrolytes in it. Also, the
>night before the ride I mix yet another bucket of water with crimped oats.
>Then, throughout the ride I will add a scoop of that to their grain, feed,
>etc.; the horses really like that.
>
>I have found that becoming organized at a ride takes a lot of practice.
>That means going to more rides! (aw darn!) I figure it took me a good
>year to really get my system down, and I bet in another year I'll be doing a
>lot of things differently, it's a continual learning process.
>
>I can't wait to hear what other riders do!
>
>Happy Trails,
>
>Karen
>in Gardnerville
>& Weaver 550 miles
>& Rocky 105 LD
>
>
>
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>
>Date: 22 Jan 97 07:31:24 EST
>From: olga bouteneff <72120.3514@CompuServe.COM>
>To: "INTERNET:ridecamp@endurance.net" <ridecamp@endurance.net>
>Subject: Re: Non-typical endurance horses
>Message-ID: <970122123123_72120.3514_HHB32-2@CompuServe.COM>
>
>I finished the NY100 (3day ctr) last July on my 14'2 paint. (mostly QH, bit of
>TB). came in 8th in the LW division. There were a couple of other atypical
>horses at the ride, they seemed to do fine. The only time I made a
spectacle of
>myself was at the trot out at the end of each day. Sam didn't seem all that
>tired, but he did NOT want to do this. My husband had to run behind him waving
>towels, bottles, yelling, what ever to help me get him to trot. We had a
pretty
>good audience for this activity at the end of each day, everyone seemed to have
>a good laugh.
>
>Olga
>
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>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:47:28 -0500 (EST)
>From: Mateef@aol.com
>To: hblmh@ptd.net
>cc: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Endurance related gear catalog
>Message-ID: <970122074727_273989733@emout16.mail.aol.com>
>
>Helga,
>Hi, my name is Sallie Sullivan. I have just started a new company called
>Mateef Equine Designs. I am making polar fleece gear. Jackets, pullovers,
>vests, Bum Blankets, hats, etc. I also carry Miracle Groom to make grooming
>easier and E-Quest coolers for those hot summer rides. Let me know your
>address and I'll send you a catalog.
>
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>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:09:13 -0500 (EST)
>From: TETERVIN@bms.com
>To: ridecamp@endurance.net
>Subject: Re: Endurance related gear catalog
>Message-id: <01IEI8YEL5DKQPF74G@bms.com>
>Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
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>Hi- Please send me your catalog!Thanks. Amy Tetervin 304 Penn-Harb. Rd.,
>Pennington, NJ 08534
>
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