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And no one has said who will have to pay for any testing....

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From: Truman Prevatt <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Lori Bertolucci <loribertolucci@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Dawn Carrie <rdcarrie@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 11:53:44 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] New FEI drug rule...question about placings at a ride

If the FEI does not waive these new rules for endurance - then the AERC BOD is going to have some decisions to make.

The FEI/USEF can do what they want. It's their ball they can play the game how they want it. If their rules significantly impact the AERC rides and as you brought out - that is very possible - it is up to the AERC to protect the horses and riders in its sanctioned rides. This problem is about us not about them. We will have to respond. How we respond says more about the AERC than it does the FEI.

Truman

Lori Bertolucci wrote:

But, unless a drug test was already in place to test the FEI/AERC horse when it comes in first, there isn't any other way to know, correct? And this would give an unfair advantage to the FEI/AERC rider over the AERC/only ride, wouldn't it?

And if the AERC/only rider requests to have the FEI/AERC horse tested, who has to pay for the testing?

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From: Dawn Carrie <rdcarrie@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Lori Bertolucci <loribertolucci@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ridecamp <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; enduranceopen <theenduranceopen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 8:36:56 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] New FEI drug rule...question about placings at a ride

<<If, at a ride that is sanctioned for both FEI and AERC, there is an FEI/AERC rider that is allowed to use drugs and does, and an AERC/only rider that cannot use drugs, and they come in 1st and 2nd, in that order, who is actually the winner?>>

 

I'd guess that they'd be placed in the order they finished, unless that ride was selected for random drug testing, and the FEI horse was randomly selected.  But - since the FEI rider is allowed to use drugs, could the AERC rider request that the horse be drug-tested?  If it tested positive, the FEI rider would still be first FEI, but would be DQed from the AERC ride.  It just seems that with FEI allowing drugs, this opens up a whole can of worms for dual sanctioned rides with mixed fields of riders (some riding FEI/AERC and some riding AERC only.  The AERC only riders would be wondering if the FEI/AERC rider(s) who finished ahead of them were riding drugged horses.

 

I wonder...if the ride is dual sanctioned with AERC, could the AERC rules over-rule the FEI rules, and thus no drugs be allowed?  That is, in the US, FEI riders couldn't use drugs? 

 

Dawn Carrie, Texas

 

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Lori Bertolucci <loribertolucci@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all.

I have a question that I am hoping someone can answer...

If, at a ride that is sanctioned for both FEI and AERC, there is an FEI/AERC rider that is allowed to use drugs and does, and an AERC/only rider that cannot use drugs, and they come in 1st and 2nd, in that order, who is actually the winner?

Lori

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