Re: [RC] okay, another question - Joe LongTruman Prevatt wrote: A pulled rider is not suppose to continue. In reality some of the AERC rules have to be tempered with where the ride is held. For example take the old LBL ride where the basecamp is at a USFS public for fee campground. The camping is a treaty with the USFS not the ride manager or the AERC. The AERC nor the ride manager have no preferential use of the trails - as is true on most public lands. As soon as a rider is pulled or gets his completion he is no longer in competition - hence any AERC authority over such a rider ceases. So if a rider decides to take his horse out once he is say pulled for lameness to see if he could figure out where or why - he is on his own time in a on public trails in a public equestrian camping facility. The only thing the AERC has jurisdiction over is those people entered in the event. I am sure one could file a protest against a person if they did what I described above related to "horse welfare" issues. But that I think is a somewhat slippery slope since the only time a person is considered in competition is after they check in till the time they are pulled or have received a completion. If they are not in competition - the AERC rules do not apply. The AERC rules do only apply to those entered in an AERC event during the time they are in the event. Truman OK, on these points, AIUI: AREC Rule 10.4.1.2 In the event of an emergency and in order to remain in competition, the Junior who is in last place and whose pre-registered sponsor is pulled, and there are no other qualified sponsors to follow, the Junior may be sponsored by an un-entered qualified rider through the completion of the ride, with ride management and control judge approval. He would receive last place junior points. This emergency sponsor will receive no credit for mileage or points. The Junior may also be sponsored by an adult on foot from the last control check with the approval of ride management. That provision is due to the rule against any rider being "paced or prompted" by an un-entered horse, which precludes a non-entered rider riding along with an AERC rider. The AERC cannot prevent the non-entered rider from riding a public trail but can sanction the AERC rider for the infraction, such as awarding completion only or even disqualifying them from the ride. AERC Rule 6ks and L6k. A rider who is disqualified at a vet check and rides on along the AERC route, even on public trails, is violating an AERC rule. The AERC can suspend him from entering future events for doing this (and should, IMO). -- Joe Long aka ChipRider jlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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