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Re: [RC] okay, another question - Joe Long

Truman Prevatt wrote:
A pulled rider is not suppose to continue. In reality some of the AERC
rules have to be tempered with where the ride is held. For example take
the old LBL ride where the basecamp is at a USFS public for fee
campground. The camping is a treaty with the USFS not the ride manager
or the AERC. The AERC nor the ride manager have no preferential use of
the trails - as is true on most public lands.

As soon as a rider is pulled or gets his completion he is no longer in
competition - hence any AERC authority over such a rider ceases. So if a
rider decides to take his horse out once he is say pulled for lameness
to see if he could figure out where or why - he is on his own time in a
on public trails in a public equestrian camping facility.

The only thing the AERC has jurisdiction over is those people entered in
the event. I am sure one could file a protest against a person if they
did what I described above related to "horse welfare" issues. But that I
think is a somewhat slippery slope since the only time a person is
considered in competition is after they check in till the time they are
pulled or have received a completion. If they are not in competition -
the AERC rules do not apply. The AERC rules do only apply to those
entered in an AERC event during the time they are in the event.

Truman

OK, on these points, AIUI:

AREC Rule  10.4.1.2 In the event of an emergency and in order to remain
in competition, the Junior who is in last place and whose pre-registered
sponsor is pulled, and there are no other qualified sponsors to follow,
the Junior may be sponsored by an un-entered qualified rider through the
completion of the ride, with ride management and control judge approval.
He would receive last place junior points. This emergency sponsor will
receive no credit for mileage or points. The Junior may also be
sponsored by an adult on foot from the last control check with the
approval of ride management.

That provision is due to the rule against any rider being "paced or
prompted" by an un-entered horse, which precludes a non-entered rider
riding along with an AERC rider.  The AERC cannot prevent the
non-entered rider from riding a public trail but can sanction the AERC
rider for the infraction, such as awarding completion only or even
disqualifying them from the ride.  AERC Rule 6ks and L6k.

A rider who is disqualified at a vet check and rides on along the AERC
route, even on public trails, is violating an AERC rule.   The AERC can
suspend him from entering future events for doing this (and should, IMO).


-- 
Joe Long  aka ChipRider
jlong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[RC] okay, another question, sherman
Re: [RC] okay, another question, Truman Prevatt