RE: [RC] okay, another question - Kristen A Fisher
Title: Message
TRUMAN -
The rule says the ENTRANT should not get a completion -
it doesn't say anything about actions against a non-entrant - which is in
complete agreement to what you are saying.
You keep arguing that the RM/AERC can't do anything to
a non-entered person on public, and no one is disputing that. So let it
go!
The instance in question included a DQ'ed rider on
private land.
Kristen
As soon as a rider is pulled or gets his completion he is no longer in
competition - hence any AERC authority over such a rider ceases. So if a rider
decides to take his horse out once he is say pulled for lameness to see if he
could figure out where or why - he is on his own time in a on public trails in
a public equestrian camping facility.
The only thing the AERC has
jurisdiction over is those people entered in the event. I am sure one could
file a protest against a person if they did what I described above related to
"horse welfare" issues. But that I think is a somewhat slippery slope since
the only time a person is considered in competition is after they check in
till the time they are pulled or have received a completion. If they are not
in competition - the AERC rules do not apply. The AERC rules do only apply to
those entered in an AERC event during the time they are in the event.
Truman
sherman wrote:
I any
non-entered horse riding with you, whether in front, alongside or behind,
was considered pacing or prompting, and most horses think it is too since
most are competitive to some degree, unless they are only walking, but
many horses are even competitive at a walk and want to get ahead or feel
pushed to go faster from the horses behind them. I thought I'd even read
that a DQd rider could not continue on the trail, but I suppose that would
affect only AERC members.
Kathy
Truman
wrote:
But you would
have to establish the rider was paced or prompted by the other
riders not the mere fact that the person was riding with them. There
is be a difference between riding with a group of trail riders say
for a mile at an area like LBL with a lot of trail riders - even if
you knew them - and being paced or prompted.
It's not the
act of riding with someone - it's the act of being paced or prompted
to gain a competitive advantage. If I remember correctly this rule
came out of people whose crews were driving behind them in 100 mile
rides at the end to prompt their horse to go on.
--
"There is always a well-known solution to every human
problem--neat, plausible, and wrong." H. L.
Mencken
