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From: diana2507@xxxxxxxxxxx To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] Early handling Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 07:17:27 -0600
Hmmm... This is interessting about the "Early handling" .
I have never raised a horse before ..i always got other peoples throw away horses. With behaviors I had to fix.
Two years ago i got my first foal. I took him home when he was 4 month old. I have raised him and trained him I used John Lyons and Parelli methods and i even bought Clinton Andersons "Brining up a foal".
I thought i would leave the foal and mother together till the foal was 6 month..but dicited against it when i sah the foal kicking his mom with both hind feet to get her to move over so he could drink. He was quiet a hand full ..... I thought ...no way buddy , this behavior is a little to rough for my opinion.
So i took him home ....He is now 22 month old . Has been loading in a trailer ( without a halter on him , just my arm over his neck ) since he was 6 month old. He backs and yields to pressure with just a wiggle of my finger in any direction. He plays ball with me...like a dog hahah i trow it he brings it back . He is an all around respectfull young horse . He has not been ridden ( I will wait till he gets a little older and his growth plates in his knees have closed.) He is 15 hands tall.
He is the best thing that ever happend to me :-) I have never raised a foal , because i didn't have the understanding , I have learned and studied and know i have a great horse. I am sooo exited about this.
My God shall supply all my needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus Phil 4:19 ~~____(\ .../< >\
> From: katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [RC] Early handling > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 21:10:25 -0800 > > Ed said: > > > I have no idea who or how John Henry was trained > > from 0 to 2 years old, shucks I even thought that I > > remembered that he was a harness horse. > > There is a good chance that, like many race horses (even many horses), > he wasn't trained at all from 0 to 2 years old. When I picked up my ill > tempered race bred TB as a two year old from her breeder one of the > things he told me was "first you gotta catch her; she ain't never been > caught before." > > > He may > > have been one of those extremely rare individuals > > who was so aggressive that no amount of proper > > early training would have changed his attitude, but > > somehow I doubt that. > > There is no way to know if John Henry would have been an ill tempered > son of a bitch no matter what his early handling. However, this > statement is true for all horses, not just John Henry. My ill tempered > tb mare might be more manageable were she handled differently (like at > all) in her early years, but those years has already passed before she > crossed my path. By the time I got her, it was too late to give her > "early handling." > > Since very few people raise horses from a baby (and I have recently come > to the conclusion that few people should because it is easier to do > wrong than to do right), but rather have to handle full grown adult > horses, it is fatuous, to say the least, that the bad behaviour could > have been corrected if only it had been done before you got the horse. > John Lyons's (or virtually all other's) techniques are presented as > techniques for working with adult horses. By the time they get to be > adults, not only has the inherent differences in individuals > personalities already set it; but the effects of early handling has > already set in as well. > > Consequently, it is entirely appropriate to assert that one should be > careful in applying any techniques across the board. There are some > horses that the cookie cutter techniques won't work on, whether it is > because they were born different, or they learned to be different from > their early handling is irrelevant. > > kat > Orange County, Calif. > :) > > p.s. It is also possible that any early handling of my mare would have > been WORSE than the none that she got. Since, I contend, no early > handling is a much better option than poor early handling. > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp > Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp > > Ride Long and Ride Safe!! > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >
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