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OK -- thanks for the correction, because that really was the way I  
took the post.  I think I was responding to the "don't count on that  
kind of guts from everyone" phrase.  After re-reading the post, that  
was specifically directed to an immediate DQ, but I took it as lack  
of support for informal followups as well.  My mistake, and I apologize.

I agree that the first step should be to contact Ride Management,  
then go to the regional director.  Also -- I checked the new rules --  
this stuff has to be done in a timely fashion, because there is a 30  
day time limit on filing a protest if all pertinent information is  
available at the time of the ride.   I saw longer times for certain  
circumstances, but that is the primary cutoff time.  That means that  
you can't just contact Ride Management or the regional director, and  
let things go on unresolved for a couple of months, then file a protest.

As for your last comment -- I wonder how many people read completely  
through the rules when they become members?  Then - how many remember  
what they read 3 months later?   Breaking down the rules into short  
articles in EN might help the situation a bit.

Also - not everyone is blessed with a decisive personality (just ask  
me - I can dither with the best of them).  I can understand cases  
where it takes a person a bit of time to sort through all their  
feelings and come to a decision.  Sometimes, that is after the ride  
is over.  Again -- some helpful advice in EN might be of benefit.


On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:33 PM, heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> > So, what you are saying - in contrast to what I understood from
> > Bruce's post, is that in a case such as this, the ONLY option is to
> > file a full, formal protest if Ride Management doesn't want to take
> > on the job of talking to or educating the rider.  That there is no
> > other way to have the situation addressed outside of the formal
> > protest mechanism.  There is no way to initiate a lower-key feedback
> > mechanism in order to educate a rider about expected trail manners,
> > or horse manners, etc., similar to what the WOTH committee does for
> > horse welfare issues.
>
> Well, no, that isn't quite what Laura said.  She said that you go  
> through the "process."  The first part of that "process" is to  
> contact your regional director to try to get something resolved,  
> before filing a formal protest.
>
> But I will say again what I said before, in response to Susan G's  
> good post:  THE FIRST STEP IS TO ASK THE RIDE MANAGEMENT TO ENFORCE  
> THE RULES!
>
> It really makes me sad to see these cases out on e-mail lists when  
> it appears that NO attempt was made AT THE RIDE to request that the  
> RM enforce AERC's rules.
>
> Heidi


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