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[RC] re: the horse can't out pull you - tying and rolling the dice - Kristi SchaafRhonda wrote: I think there are horses for whom Parelli style methods will work just fine. And there are horses, like my strong willed mare, for whom Parelli methods are just a disaster......She decided at one point that she wouldn't lead and would race backwards instead. She quickly learned that I could run forward faster than she could run backwards, and that I would make her continue to run backwards waaaaaay longer than she thought was fun. ___________________ Actually, I once had a top-notch Parelli clinician do exactly that to my horse at a clinic because he didn't like my horse's pissy attitude. I had no idea my horse could back that fast or that far. That was the right answer for that horse at that time, and his attitude was 'yes maam' when he was handed back to me. But he was never in danger of being hurt, either physically or emotionally, and that's an important point to remember. Also, I think 'Parelli methods' (or any other 'method' for that matter, since this whole thread isn't about PNH) often get inaccurately generalized by people. I've seen Pat Parelli get VERY physically assertive with a horse and I've seen Ray Hunt (as amazing a horsemen as they come) get a horse to do something no one else could by practically just passing his thoughts on to the horse. The crux of the matter is that the vast majority of us think we're more proficient at reading horses than we really are, and we don't have the exact timing needed to make things look effortless. The great horsemen can make it look so easy. But the few times they need to get assertive enough that the human eye can see it, the general horse owner thinks 'see, THAT'S the way you get a horse to do what you want' and the next thing you know that person is bullying and manhandling horses ALL the time. One of the natural horsemanship guys (can't remember which one) has a saying that is something like 'as soft as possible and as firm as necessary'. But sooooooo many people jump right to the firm part and forget all about offering the horse the soft part, and that's the attitude that really frustrates me. Kristi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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