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My daughter is on her track team at college. We were told at a mandatory 
meeting for all athletes that at any time, they could be tested for illegal 
drugs. ANYTIME, not just after a meet or race. It could be during practice, 
study hall, dinner time, ANYTIME! There are no fines, or suspensions. You 
are expelled from the team. Permanently. For someone like my daughter, who 
lives and breaths track, that is a death sentence.

Wouldn't it be nice to catch the idiots who run horses doped up BEFORE they 
race the crap out of them? What a peculiar idea!

Yes, I know there is no way to know who the winner would be. What does that 
matter? Maybe the rules should address drug testing BEFORE competition 
rather than after. I guess there are all kinds of excuses as to why that 
wouldn't be fair, but those excuses would be for the rider, not the horse.

Lisa Salas, The Odd fArm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Truman Prevatt" <tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Tom Sites" <goearth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Steph Teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "ridecamp camp" 
<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] EC DQ


> Tom,
>
> Marion Jones came to mind when I read the case of the "failed drug test" 
> at the FEI ride. Ben Johnson also comes to mind. It was Johnson's positive 
> in the Olympics that caused people to open their eyes to the problem. 
> While Johnson was the only runner caught at that time and since he was 
> caught admitted to using Stanozolol in the 1988 Olympics. Johnson was only 
> the tip of the iceburg. Of the first five runners to finish the 100 in the 
> that Olympics 4 of the 5 had used drugs in competition at some point in 
> their career, the only clean athletic was Carl Lewis.
>
> When I was running in college, no one would think about using any sort of 
> drugs. When I finally retired from club track in 1973 - there was some 
> rumors of maybe some of the field guys, hammer throwers, shot putters, 
> etc., but no runners. By 1980 it was becoming an issue and by all accounts 
> by the 1984 Olympics drug use among runners was common. By '88 it was a 
> significant problem. In the '90's it went down to even the high school 
> levels. IMO the problem was simple - a simple slap on the hand was not 
> sufficient.
>
> I think the lesson here is not only is did punishment not fit the 
> infraction in the FEI case, but with such lax punishment we will see this 
> level of endurance undergo the same corruption as human track.
>
> Truman
>
> Tom Sites wrote:
> > I feel it was a 'failed drug test' because the winner failed the drug 
> > test.
> >
> > Lets see a show of hands here on RC...
> >
> > Who here was at the 1st WEC in Pratoni del Varvo in Italy in 1986. I was.
> >
> > Who here was at the European Championships in Marloffstein, Germany in 
> > 1987? I was.
> >
> > Who here was at the 2nd WEC in Ft. Royal in 1988? I was.
> >
> > So since i was at these 3 events i have seen the De-Evolution of FEI 
> > Endurance.
> >
> > People want to see Endurance in the Olympics, yet I think it was Marion 
> > Jones who just caught on steroids (doping the human) and what did they do 
> > to her? Took away a substantial amount of money, took away her medals, 
> > and probably, i don't know, banned her for a few years and she will serve 
> > jail time. Its a slap on the hand to the most serious infraction one can 
> > make in a sport to just take away a win and not sanction in some way the 
> > offender when the innocent horse is give a doping agent. . ts
>
>
> --
>
> “He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a 
> monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into 
> you.” Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil
>
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