RE: [RC] ponying - Kitley, Carrie E Civ USAF AFSPC 30 MDSS/SGSLFBut wait! I want to pony Teddy, my 35 year old Leopard Appy and get him started on riderless chariot LD's since he's too old to ride that far. But then again, since he would essentially be piggy-backing off my mare, should they split the miles & awards since their relative standings would be the same? It may cause an ugly fight and I don't think 1/2 a T-shirt would look too good on either of them. Someone else mentioned, what about BC's . . . one gets a B and the other, a C? LOL (pardon my blatant sarcasm). Diane's "what a delicious nightmare" made me do it. =) Carrie Kitley-Jackson 30th Medical Group, Vandenberg AFB DMLSS?Database Sustainment Specialist (DSS) CACI?International Inc? www.caci.com dsn?276-1077, Comm (805) 606-1077 fax dsn?276-1179 <\_~ // \\ carrie.kitley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx? -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Diane Trefethen Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:55 PM To: Ridecamp Subject: Re: [RC] ponying k s swigart wrote: In fact, one of the reasons I didn't think it appropriate to get rid of that rule is that it is now legal, in an AERC ride, to have one rider enter two horses, pony one, ride the other, and switch off between them. AND get TWO completions and mileage for both! Boy - neither Trilby or Les thought of THAT :) Wait why stop at 2? Why not enter 3 or 4 horses, ride one at a time and pony the others and get completions and mileage for them all? Can't you see it! A new division (AERC loves to add divisions). Call it the Chariot Division. Then subdivide it into 2,3 and 4 horses. That's THREE divisions... WHEE!!! It doesn't matter that we all "know" that an entry has to have one horse and one rider. The bottom line is that there is no such restriction in the rules. And taking a page from show competitions, riders enter and ride multiple horses all the time. Look at rule 6. There isn't one subsection listed that couldn't be met by one rider entering two or more horses and completing the distance with them all. And if all of a rider's horses fulfilled all the requirements listed in rule 6, plus any additional rules imposed by the RM, then how could an RM refuse to award them all completions and mileage? They could try but when the rider protested, what basis could the RM use to defend his/her refusal to grant the completions? No rule supports that decision. If an RM specified on the entry form that every horse that starts the ride must have its own, unique rider, ie, no riderless horses, or even made such an announcement at the ride meeting (along with the rule in writing), then that would be a valid rule. But if the RM failed to announce such a rule in advance, (s)he couldn't just make up such a rule at the starting line. Special ride rules, except in the case of an emergency, must be "made available to them [competitors] in written form at a preride meeting", if not sooner. And what if they Top Ten? If you have to give a *completion* to each horse that is present at the start of the ride, properly entered, etc, wouldn't you have to give them all the other awards that they qualify for? 1st place, BC, Top Ten? And wouldn't the rider qualify for Weight Division points on all the horses that completed? Oh, wait. Maybe not. They'd be in the Chariot Division. Probably couldn't qualify for awards in multiple divisions on the same ride :) What a delicious nightmare! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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