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I don't think that is what was implied.  As a ride manager of 35 years 
experience, we always deal with #1 and #3.  Re: #2, we only have one rural 
road crossing which is late in the day or at night, and we have a 
number-taker there who would help with traffic, if there was any.  But were 
we to have a major or dangerous crossing, we would provide traffic control, 
also.
Of course ride management is responsible for those three items...that's part 
of presenting a suitable trail for competition.  Ride management is not 
responsible for the riders' behavior or that of fractious horses.

For the interest of the current endurance riding community, when I first 
became involved in riding endurance, ride management did not feel it 
necessary to provide water at all vet checks.  My first ride had a water 
crossing at 8 miles from the start, but the VC at 12 miles did not have 
water, and there was no water for a good many miles after that.  I failed to 
finish that ride because my horse was dehydrated.

Barbara


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth Walker" <bwalker2@xxxxxxx>
To: "Ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [RC] Safe???


> So ... you are saying that ride management has no responsibility to  see 
> that:
>     1)  The trail is scouted, marked, and obviously dangerous places  are 
> routed around.
>     2)  Road crossings have crossing guards if there is a high 
> probability of a collision in their absence
>     3)  Water is provided or available on the trail and at vet checks
>     etc.
>
> That to me is the meaning of "work to provide a safe, well-run and 
> appropriate environment".   I don't think LP was trying to imply that 
> endurance was "safe", or that horses are predictable -- but ride 
> management does have certain responsibilities.
>
> On Jan 16, 2008, at 7:45 PM, k s swigart wrote:
>
> > LP said:
> >
> > > Fascinating theory... But if you look at it from the
> > > rider's perspective - he signed that 'contract' and
> > > with that he was also under the assumption that
> > > ride management would work to provide a safe,
> > > well-run and appropriate environment for this event.
> >
> > Actually, it states quite clearly in my "contract" that the entrant
> > should in no way consider the event safe, but instead that it is
> > inherently risky.
> >
> > Anybody who says that it is safe to ride a horse is full of shit.
> >
> > Riding horses is NOT safe, period.
> >
> > kat
> > Orange County, Calif.
>
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