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Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp - Mike Lewis

The ankle holster idea would work just fine. :-)

I carry a cell phone, nutrition bar, and ID in an ankle carry pack and have never had trouble on the trail with "things" mounted there when I've come off. Of course, I've only come off once since carrying items on my lower leg.

That said, I adhere to the idea of keeping the clip separate from the pistol (but within easy reach) when packing heat in an environment where falls are a possibility. I don't trust safeties.

The conversations here on ridecamp are amazing...


Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan" <scswag@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Beth Walker'" <bwalker2@xxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] Guns at ridecamp



On the carrying issue. Does anyone use an ankle holster over their boots?
Seems this would eliminate the potential injuries if you came off your
horse. And it would be easily accessible. I'd hate to think what would
happen if you had one on your back and that is the direction you came off.

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Beth Walker
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:16 AM
To: Ridecamp
Subject: Re: [RC] Guns at ridecamp

Last time I looked, California law was that glove boxes were
specifically a no-no.  Weapon has to be in a locked container,
unloaded.  I think it also has to be in a different compartment;
i.e.,  in the trunk of your car, but I would have to check on that.



On Nov 1, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Truman Prevatt wrote:

In Florida it is a "two move" law. It takes two moves before you
can get it. For example if it is the glove box and is loaded that
is only considered "one move" and would get you into a heap of
trouble. If it is the glove box and unloaded, a locked glove box
and loaded, in the glove box in a case loaded - those would be two
moves and would be okay. Given the number of state troopers that
have been shot in routine traffic stops in Florida - they are quite
serious about enforcing that law. If you have a CCW, then if I
remember correctly it has to be carried concealed in the auto, e.g.
in the glove box, or concealed on your person but the two move rule
does not apply.

I have a good friend that is a Supervisory Special Agent with the
FBI. He tells me the FBI policy is - they could give a rats behind
about who does or does not have a CCW or a handgun license. If they
show up - everyone in the area of their control will be relieved of
their firearms - resistance is a federal offense. As he says when
they arrive, very quickly they are going to be the only people with
guns.

When I carry a fire arm with me, it is in the LQ part of the
trailer. That falls under the definition of "your home" so your
rights are much more robust. That way I'll have it with me in case
I have to shoot a runaway generator.

I learned a long time ago from a very good group of special ops
guys that the best defensive weapon you have is your awareness of
the situation. These guys were very good at getting a mission done
without anyone ever knowing they were there - which was the only
way the missions they were on could succeed. That's exactly how I
approach the trail. It's quite easy on a horse to know well in
advance if there is someone in the woods with you and it's quite
easy to work your way around them if necessary. In fact you should
know they are there before they even detect you are there.

Truman

Beth Walker wrote: 
Don't get me started. I live in California, where the laws are
written so that - unless you have a CCW permit - you cannot have a
gun in your car that is at all accessible in an emergency. And of
course, in my neck of the woods, it is very difficult to get a CCW
permit. Nice catch-22.

On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:34 AM, Susan wrote:

You know, the gun may not be FOR ridecamp. We do have to get
there and to get back home. Now days, it's not safe for anyone to
be on the roads alone...male or female.

*/Kristi Schaaf <iluvdez@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:iluvdez@xxxxxxxxx>>/*
wrote:

    Mary wrote:
    this is more to have around the house and ridecamp.
    _________________

    This just struck me as such a funny comment!! The way
    its written, it makes it sound like people actually
    specifically bring guns to ridecamp. Is this so? If
    so, why? To shoot the loose dogs? To shoot the loud
    generator? To shoot the person banging buckets at 3
    am? Or???

Kristi

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