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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] Bey Shah temperament - Kathy MayedaWe still have to look at the individual horses, their temperaments, their conformation no matter what. Just because they are halter bloodlines does not mean that the other functional qualities are bred out. I haven't looked for a breeding stallion for awhile, but I would lean towards the Varian program or maybe an imported Polish stallion who's breeding program hasn't lost sight of athleticism, conformation and temperatment. Then there's Remington Steele and some Russian stallions that have done well in performance and halter. I do like Crabbet lines, too. Beau and Beamer's grandam, Wildrose Mariah, was 100% Crabbet and a totally beautiful and functional mare. She produced halter quality horses crossed to Russian and Polish lines. But when you go back deep into pedigrees, they really are so entertwined between the Crabbet-Polish-Russian to America pedigrees.... Oh, BTW, Shahwan GSB, who I bred my mare to, was from Egyptian bloodlines - Nazeer. He was shown at halter after importation, never did well at halter, but still worthwhile to breed to except I think he's dead now. Some of the European halter shows have some really nice stallions that are more properly bred.I entertained the thought of getting a palomino by breeding to Fire and Ice, but didn't like the way he moved. I look for function over color. I liked the other horse on the tape better - Silverado Bey who was a grey. I have a co-boarder who's mare was a cast-off from a heritage breeder of Babson horses. I knew the breeder from years ago. The breeder would pay ridiculous prices for her short ugly little black mares just because they were Babson linebred. Her horses are not athletic, nor beautiful. They were ponies with tiny, tiny feet. 14.1 and 000's. She rode one of them at Fireworks LD, went 2 hours overtime, then bragged about how proud she was of her horse the rest of the day. The co-boarder bought a mare from this and bought into this whole heritage thing. The mare is pretty unflappable, but she also has no "spark" in her. She'll never be able to do endurance because of OCD. This is a case of breeding bad things in a non-halter program and not breeding towards the good in the name of "preservation." The breeder's horses have no ligament strength, had really, really spindly legs, but that may be a nature vs. nuture thing. The breeder never really rides her horses much. I do know the sheer craziness of the halter breeding programs. They don't make much sense to me sometimes either. My ex drives me crazy with his incessant breeding. When were still together, I begged him not to breed and promote the Bey Shah horses. Joust was a much better stallion in my mind (Crabbet (Wildrose Mariah)/Russian). He has three Bey Shah bred stallions just hanging around doing nothing. A few of the geldings may be endurance worthy. The others would probably have to be coddled arena horses (the Bey Shah stuff). There are a couple that I hate to say that in some hands would end up at the slaughterhouse because they are too explosive. All because my ex had a couple of big halter horse sales years ago. Still living in that bubble that's long ago burst. He still has Beamer's three fillies on his property, and they've all produced really nice horses. Nice temperaments and conformation. K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx> To: <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <sgooch@xxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Bey Shah temperament Kathy, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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