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Re: [RC] [RC] [RC] Bey Shah temperament - Ranelle Rubin

Kathy,

One thing to remember about a line like Bey Shah, Bask, etc...is the sheer #'s of horses bred to a stallion will increase the "visability" of a particular line in endurance. I agree with you that there are some VERY athletic BS bred horses out there doing very well in endurance...

I have to agree with Heidi's point of view though on bloodlines. There is a guy here in CA who breeds CMK horses that are what I can say are the nicest animals around..Heidi has a few of them at her ranch..The natural way of going of a "riding horse" is something that just does not do well in the show ring, typically.

And, my personal opinion of what is popular in the show ring is for the most part, they would not hold up in our sport for long.



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From: "Kathy Mayeda" <kathy.mayeda@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx>,<sgooch@xxxxxxxxxx>,<ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC] [RC] Bey Shah temperament
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:11:36 -0700

This is exactly my experience, too, with my horses. Beamer and Beau are pretty unflappable on the trail, except Beamer spooks at drainage grates, and Beau doesn't like Arab eating rocks. They spook momentarily, but they always get their brains back. Unless Beau is in race mode, the other horses don't agitate them except for some trash-talking from Beau. Drako, on the other hand, will react to a horse a mile away and being with a babysitter horse does not make a bit of difference, and the drama just seems to escalate.

There are several Bey Shah horses out there on the endurance trail doing very well. My mare has a Bey Shah grandson that has an excellent temperament. He's Ildi's horse - Maryben's junior. The stallion who I bred my mare to was the only purebred Arabian registered as an ISR/Trakehner improvement sire in North America at that time - and was 100 day stallion tested out of the Marbach stud in Germany. So that side of the genetic equation counts in this horses' dam.

Bey Shah horses also seem to take a long time to mature, both physically and mentally. Drako grew an inch as a 7 y.o. and just this year started to get a real horse looking body, instead of being long an lanky.

I like the concept of the AHA and the sport-horse competitions. Just wish that was more predominant part of the organization.

Drako is linebred, too, out of a Bey Oro daughter by a Bey Shah son. Beau is heavily linebred to Skrownek -which shows up in his Russian, Crabbet and Polish lineages.... got that dippy back thing, but he's pretty athletic. I think Beamer's dam's Polish lines doesn't have as much Skownek so she has a pretty nice back.

K.









----- Original Message ----- From: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx>
To: <sgooch@xxxxxxxxxx>; <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: [RC] [RC] Bey Shah temperament


Sara,

I have ridden several Bey Shah horses belonging to others. What I can say I like about the horses I own, that is completely different is they are self-contained. They are less affected by outside stimulation than the Bey-Shah horses I have experienced.

For that reason, it is one quality that I look for specifically in a horse. It has a lot to do with self-confidence, IMO.

My boyfriend had one, line bred to boot. I could not stand that horse under saddle with other horses. He was fine alone, and during ground work. But put him in a crowded situation, and you might as well be a fly on his back. He now belongs to a lady who rides him primarily alone on trail, has no interest in doing endurance, and everyone is happy!


Ranelle Rubin, Business Consultant
http://www.rrubinconsulting.com
Independent Dynamite Distributor
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916-663-4140 home office
916-718-2427 cellular
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From: "Sara Gooch" <sgooch@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [RC]   Bey Shah temperament
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:07:57 -0800

I'd love to see more discussion on "Bey Shah Temperament." I have a Bey Shah mare.
With so many Bey Shah horses out there in endurance and other fields, too ... Is there a consensus on a "Bey Shah Temperament" ...? Or would the discussion settle into the "Nature vs. Nurture" debate?

Sara
...on a snowy weekend in northeastern California



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