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Title: RE: [RC] Number of horses and riders in France

hooooh... hey John, CENs go up to 90km and this is real endurance. Your LD's are 25 miles, so something like 40km. Sorry but I will be shot by some of the list, but this is not endurance.

Our limited distance rides (30, 40 and 60kms) are considered as qualifying rides and are limited in speed. A ranking is well calculated, based on smart algorithms using metabolic parameters and speed (up to the max allowed one, if you go over you are disqualified), something like the BC.

Our CEN or 90km (or 80km in Belgium) are like CEI rides except that :

- in Belgium, this is not the first to cross the finish line who is necessarily the winner; the winner is the first to enter the vetgate at the HR of 56 BPM
- in France also they use 56 BPM as criteria

Voila

-----Original Message-----
From: John Teeter [mailto:johnt@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tue 10/9/2007 7:43 PM
To: LIESENS Leonard (COMM)
Cc: coldeye22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [RC]   Number of horses and riders in France

The difference Leonard points out is CEI.vs.CEN - from the (elitist:) 
view of the 160km rider, of course these CEN events are not 
endurance! and we get the 6000 person count. As we in the US already 
KNOW -- LD is not Endurance ... CEI.vs.CEN ... it's the same old story.

But when we want to count the number of endurance riders in the us, 
we gladly through in the LD riders (the 6000 number from the US is 
the AERC membership number which includes both divisions). We should 
do the same for France.

If we counted both the CEI and CEN participants, where would the 
French endurance population stand??

jt

On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:27 AM, <Leonard.Liesens@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I think you are wrong and make a confusion between FEI rides and 
> others.
>
> In Europe, only rides over 100 kms are FEI. Emerging european 
> countries organize FEI rides on lower distance, but these rides 
> shouldn't be FEI rides, this is just bullshit, so let's not 
> consider that.