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Kat, thanks for taking the step of pointing out that "winner" in the  
case of the 2001XP was a superlative which was awarded, (along with  
that beautiful saddle) by applying a determination of excelence  
through the eyes of an informed observer - aka the duck. (and to add  
that  Carol and the Energizer were the winners!).

 I left that definition (of "winner") open as a little trip-wire to  
allow me to point out that we easily, and quite naturally, associate  
"winner" with "first to finish" with ... "race".  In the case of many  
AERC endurance events, and especially at the individual level, the  
"winner" award, determined by the Duck at the 2001XP, is a personal  
thing - to FINISH is to be a winner. as it - it's not a race unless  
YOU, the rider, make it a race.  And at almost every AERC event I've  
been to, there has been a "YOU", or a collections "YOUS" (from NJ?)  
who wish to use that definition.  So every RM needs to have a safe  
finish line, where safe is determined by the anticipated speed at  
which yous are going to approach it at any given time during the ride  
- leading most RMs to want to move the finish line as the speed of  
the yous decreases throughout the ride (as the yous who think winning  
the turtle award is the ultimate really don't need a 1/2 mile runOut  
after the finish line. a couple of yards will do...)

enough already. this is all pretty obvious stuff. but, as Kat pointed  
out, winning is often not a speed/placement thing at AERC events.   
Now FEI events are a totally different horse race.

jt (who heard the distant quack of a duck saying quit playing  
semantic games!!:)

On Sep 13, 2007, at 11:27 PM, k s swigart wrote:

> John Teeter said:
>
> > (p.s. you might also remember that there was
> > a very nice, and significant, prize (a beautiful
> > custom Annie George saddle) presented to the
> > winner of the 2001XP.)
>
> While it is true that there was a very nice, significant, custom hand
> tooled Anne George saddle presented to the winner of the 2001 XP, the
> "winner" of this prize was determined not by placing, but rather by
> vote/the Duck.

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