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[RC] Reality bites/ horse slaughter - Christy H

It's great to hear from someone who EXPERIENCED it, not just mouthing theory. Thanks!


From: "Dot Wiggins" <dotwgns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Christy H" <circle.of.mares@xxxxxxxxxxx>,<coldeye22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
CC: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   Reality bites/ horse slaughter
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:25:29 -0600

To answer this question let me tell you what I saw in the past.

When "salvage, slaughter, canner horses," whatever you want to call them, were worth 3 or 4 cents a pound, many road side pastures, back lots, open range, farm fields, etc., had plenty of misfits, outlaws, cripples, weird conformation horses.
As the salvage prices got to 30 cents and up, in the late 1960s or so, most of the junk began to disappear.
The overall quality of available horses improved a bunch.
Prices for using horses go up to match and beat the slaughter market. Nobody "breeds" for that, it doesn't pay.
If the slaughter market goes away there will again be unusable/unwanted horses eating pasture and hay, and it will be harder than ever to find a place to keep the ones you ride, the price of feed will go up, supply and demand. You think it's hard to find hay or pasture now? Wait till the 1000s of unwanteds overwhelm the rescue folks. Where are they going, who puts out the $$$$ for care?


----- Original Message ----- From: "Christy H" <circle.of.mares@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <coldeye22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: [RC] Reality bites/ horse slaughter


Currently I sit on the fence for horse slaughter (I'm leaning slightly for opening the plants back up but regulating humane transportation/treatment to give them somewhere to go), so I'd like to pose a question:

LOCAL plants that can be regulated, tough trucking regulations that can be enforced, would go a long way to make things better.
I hear some talking about conditions at the feed lots, think a minute---there is no profit in damaged, neglected stock. Feed and water
helps the bottom line.


What is the long term affect of banning horse slaughter? IN FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS, will the over-population of unwanted horses wane, back yard breeders stop breeding because the value of horses is in the toilet, and horse prices finally go up again so that people who cannot afford to care for horses properly stop buying $300 horses? CAN banning horse slaughter EVENTUALLY CHANGE THE HORSE MARKET FOR THE BETTER? LLLLLOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGG TERM? Can we increase the quality of horses being produced? 



Thanks,
Christy




From: "Linda Marins" <coldeye22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [RC]   Reality bites
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:23:21 -0400

Rather than wasting any more of my time trying to persuade the unpersuadable
on this forum, I've decided to compose an email in favor of horse slaughter
in the United States, under controlled and humane conditions, and fax it to my
federal congressman, and my two federal senators.

We need to let our reps know that the question is *NOT* horse lovers vs.
the slaughter industry. Rather it is a *FEW* highly vocal, highly organized,
well-financed anti-slaughter groups led by Bo Derrick and PETA who
have succeeded in mobilizing a certain small segment of horse lovers to
political action. The law against using any USDA funds for inspecting
horses for human consumption in the US that they succeeded in getting passed
has backfired on *them*, but it has also backfired and harmed the very horses
they were trying to help.

In an effort to cut off the flow of slaughter horses to Mexico that *they
created*, the radicals' next "solution" was to cut off funding of all USDA
activity inspecting horses coming into and out of the US. Again, as the
American Horse Council warned, this would also have completely ended
all *legitimate* transportation of stock in and out of the US for activities such as
horse breeding and international competitions like racing, show jumping,
and *endurance*.

I'm going to let my reps know that I do not support Bo Derrick and
PETA and their minions. I do not want them voting in favor
of "Horse Meat Prohibition" legislation. It isn't working, and like the
original Prohibitionists, it is a "cure" that is worse than the "disease."

Linda Marins




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