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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oddfarm" <jsalas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [RC] Rule change, who is it for?


> I like to watch and observe. Some of the people who do ride too hard are 
> usually not yearly members. They come, ride and leave. What I meant by 
> leaving earlier is that as it is now, most of those horses that are taking 
> more time to recover are at least staying to get vetted out. If these 
> riders are on horses not able to recover in the 1/2 hour time frame, more 
> than likely they are not going to stick around just to be disqualified. 
> They will just leave. At least with the hour time frame, they have a better 
> chance of recovering, seeing the vet and getting a completion. I am not 
> saying that is the best scenerio, but it is certainly better for the horse 
> to be looked at by a vet before taking off.
>
> I am not referring to people like you Heidi who knows what they are doing. 
> And I am not saying the sky is falling and hundreds of horses are going 
> home to die after a ride. Being a turtle finisher more than once, I can 
> say I have come into ridecamp and half the trailers are gone. That's fine 
> as along as all was well. But I have seen the riders who only care if they 
> are in the top ten and if they don't get in that top ten, they are outta 
> there. I would rather see them take the extra time to see the vet before 
> they leave, than to take off just because they didn't make the top ten. 
> That also gives the vets an opportunity to say to these riders, "Your 
> horse looks really tired, sore or just plain worn out, can you come back 
> in see me in another hour or so before you leave?" That would also give 
> the vet a chance to make sure the horse has eaten, had something to drink 
> and has been able to wee or poo.
>
> That to me, is what horse welfare is.
>
> Lisa Salas, Teh odd Farm
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "oddfarm" <jsalas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 6:01 PM
> Subject: RE: [RC] Rule change, who is it for?
>
>
> > >  I am not convinced that this is really going to improve the welfare of 
> > > the horse. They will just be able to leave earlier.
> >
> > How can they leave any earlier than they do now?  They currently can 
> > present at any time within the hour, including one second after crossing 
> > the finish line, if their horses meet the criteria.  And while there are 
> > certainly other parameters that are of concern, they don't complete NOW 
> > until their pulses are down to the criterion for that ride.  The rule 
> > change won't make their pulses come down any faster!
> >
> > I agree that I hate to see rigs pulling out with tired horses in them.  I 
> > also have to admit that I am sometimes one of those riders, thanks to 
> > having to be home to work on Sunday.  (Still, we do try to stick around 
> > for a few hours post ride.)  But I fail to see how this rule change would 
> > enable anyone to leave any sooner than they already do??
> >
> > Heidi



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