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Yes, please, let us know.  I have a horse I bought last May whose  
papers are not in order.  The horse had been bought at auction by one  
lady (LadyA), and sold to her best friend (LadyB), who ended up  
selling to me after 5 years when she was moving.  LadyA acted as  
agent, and promised to get  the papers cleaned up.  She has been  
trying for a year, but the registered owner is not cooperating.

My guy is a gelding, so there is no question about value for  
breeding :).  I just think that a horse with papers has at least one  
more thing in its favor than one without.  I'm not looking to sell  
this guy anytime soon, but you never know what the future holds, and  
I would like him to have his papers, if at all possible.  However - I  
do have a price limit, and I'm not willing to shell out more for a  
lawyer and court costs than it cost to buy him in the first place, so  
I would be interested in how involved this "quiet title'  stuff is.

Also -- from the little I read about it, it sounds as if you pretty  
much put your right to own the 'property' at the mercy of the court.   
You have to name the registered owner as defendant in the case, and I  
presume that person is notified of the court action.  There is a risk  
that the person will turn up in court, and the court will decide in  
favor of the original owner (maybe a very small risk....)  If they  
do, then you have to turn over the horse.  Is that correct?



On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:12 PM, Kari Hanes wrote:

> As the registry sees it, the auction house papers show proof of  
> possesion not proof of ownership. We have contacted an attorney and  
> are going to seek a "Quiet Title", we just need to figure out if we  
> should file in our county or the previous owner's county where the  
> animal abuse charges were filed. Hopefully this will be the end of  
> a two year nightmare, either we get the papers or we don't, we'll  
> just have to wait and see.
>
> At the time of purchase this was strictly a rescue of a mistreated  
> horse. I was not concerned about papers or anything else then - it  
> was just impulse to save her from a bad situation. I didn't know if  
> she was rideable or treatable, what I did know was that no animal  
> deserved to be abused that way. She stayed in our "isolation"  
> paddock for quite a while because we didn't know what she had been  
> exposed to, if she would stay in the wire fenced pasture or if she  
> could enter the mare's pasture without the strength and stamina for  
> the pecking order.
>
> We've bred and sold Arabs for years and have always considered the  
> registration papers belong to the horse - not us. On a few  
> occasions where we have sold a horse that was not registered, we  
> always supplied the new owners with the foal/breeding forms so they  
> were able to register the horse in the future if they wanted to.  
> That's just the way we look at the situation - everyone's entitled  
> to their own opinion on the subject.
>
> We did change our minds about papers when we realized what her  
> bloodlines were - this is a pure Polish, Pepton daughter, she was  
> also a money earner on the track. It's just crazy to imagine  
> someone dumping a mare of this caliber.
>
> Thanks for all the input and support, I'll let you know how this  
> all turns out.
>
> Kari Hanes
> Montalee Arabians
> Holton, MI
>
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