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  I definitely see your point but is it too much to expect if we ask that 
60% of team members complete the ride to earn a team completion?  I don't 
believe we should penalize individuals but penalize the squad.  There are 
decisions being made that are not made by the individual riders but by team 
vets, team coaches, etc.

As I mentioned before, why not have 5 team members with a required 3 for 
team completion.  Again, these are supposed to be the best riders/horses in 
the world.  Why not expect a higher completion rate from a team that is 
supposed to be the best a nation has to offer.  I think that a 40% DNF is 
more then fair to compensate for the bad luck, bad day, etc. that any 
individual can experience on race day.

 Every horse entered in the WEC is supposed to be an experienced 100 mile 
competitor. I certainly expect a better performance (completion rate) from 
my seasoned horses (as they are a known quantity) than I expect from a horse 
doing it's first season of 100s.   Why shouldn't the same be expected of the 
most experienced 100 mile horses/riders a nation sends to a WEC?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steph Teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:41 AM
Subject: RE: [RC] Over ridden?


> Kat - I don't agree with your statement that any horse which is removed 
> from
> competition has been over-ridden or 'ridden beyond its level of ability'.
>
> Regarding lameness - there are many factors which can cause a gait
> abberation, or lameness, which are not related to over-riding which you
> state is related to fitness for the job. (e.g. bruised foot, twisted 
> ankle,
> blow from an object, thrown shoe, etc).
>
> Likewise not every metabolic pull is caused by over-riding or lack of
> fitness for the job (e.g. dehydration, travel stress, sickness, anxiety,
> ulcer, extreme heat, extreme cold, azotoria, etc. )
>
> You are oversimplifying the innate challenges of this sport.
>
> There is a lot of risk associated with asking a horse to travel 100 miles 
> in
> one day, whether it is fast or slow, and to punish or ban riders who do 
> not
> complete the course is an arbitrary punishment. It may sound good in 
> theory
> when applied to riders who DO over ride their horses, but not every
> disqualification is because of over-riding
>
> Basing a ban upon simply being disqualified, would probably eventually
> reduce the number of entries to the point that there was no competition,
> i.e. not much of a World Championship. If your goal is to prevent riders 
> or
> nations from repeatedly pushing horses beyond their limits, then you need 
> to
> find a way to identify just that.
>
> Steph
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Richard Allen said:
>
> > To suggest that a horse eliminated for a minor lameness
> > which has disappeared the next morning has been
> > 'over-ridden' to an extent that merits some sort of ban
> > just doesn't tally with what actually happens at most rides.
>
> (Kat) A horse that has been removed for the competition because it was
> sufficiently lame to be deemed not fit to continue WAS over-ridden (i.e.
> it was ridden beyond its level of fitness).  And it is the fact that "it
> doesn't tally with what happens at most rides" is that at most rides
> there are lots of riders who over ride their horses (myself included,
> BTW).
>
> > >
>
>
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