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[RC] List attitudes - David LeBlancKaren said I am..........very disappointed by some of the many "attitudes" I have observed on this list. Sheesh, if folk are this testy over the internet, what are they like in real life? Why would I want to enter a sport where the interpersonal relationships are so .......... poor. Do I want to be on the trail with individuals who might consider me an obstacle to over come or a burden to bear? What if I made a mistake? A tactical error? A trail etiquette faux pa? Me thinks someone would say "off with her head". If I were to do a 100, I would hope that the "spirit of the sport" would be better than the spirit of cyberspace seen here. I have been dealing with newsgroups and mailing lists on the internet since about 1992. I used to make a habit of posting to some groups that were primarily about debate and were very contentious. At one time, I monitored/moderated a mailing list with about 1000 members. In all those years, I've never seen a crankier bunch than this one. Only time I've seen worse was when alt.fan.rush.limbaugh got crossposted with soc.feminism. I wish John and Steph had time to really moderate this list, but knowing what that takes, it isn't practical. The most benign things turn into flamewars. I have to wonder how many people are put off the sport over this. Now that said, a real-world ridecamp is a completely different place. I've also never seen a competitive sport where people were friendlier and more helpful. I've had the experience of someone running top-10 stopping to help me out, losing 3 places in the process. If someone needs help, there's always people there to help out. I don't completely understand why the real ridecamp seems to be full of great, nice people, and the list is so intolerably cranky (maybe because we're not out riding - it's worse in the winter). I wish people here would be nicer, which is why I tend to stick to our regional mailing list, and not read this one as often. It's also true that in general, people are nicer in real life - there's no chance of being popped in the nose on the Internet. It's also much more difficult to communicate without tone and facial cues - people take things the wrong way a lot more easily. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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