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Re: [RC] loose stools - Karen CoombesMy 4 year old gelding had a bout a few weeks ago - mild, but still worrisome. Turned out the pears were beginning to get ripe in the pasture and he was stretchin' like a giraffe to get all the little green ones he could. Once I figured it out (I saw him in action-what a sight!!) it explained his loose stools, and the scratches on his face. Now that the pears are ripe everything is fine - tho he's still scratching himself up getting to them (he can't wait until they fall on the ground). Only odd thing is my 18 year old foxtrotter wasn't affected. Haven't seen him eating the green pears tho - he must just wait for the ones that fall on the ground. I usually cut up apples and/or carrots in their feed, but have left them out for now. They can "self-treat"!! ============================================================ ==== ==== Ridecamp Vol: 03.3988 ==== ==== For more information: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp ==== ==== Post message: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== Subscribe: ridecamp-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== Unsubscribe: ridecamp-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== List owner: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ==== ============================================================ From: NWJH2001@xxxxxxx - Subject: Re: [RC] TB Racing, Soundness, Speed, Hooves From: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] Looking for horse for friend.. From: WRSINOSKY@xxxxxxx - Subject: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] Farrier.... Heat and cooling in dry climates From: "rides2far@xxxxxxxx" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Farrier.... Heat and cooling in dry climates From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] Bruised tail bone... Concussion, compaction From: "Steph Teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] True Grit Endurance and Trail Horses For Sale From: susan x <akela_2777@xxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] The CorrecTOR From: Bruce Weary DC <bweary@xxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] Tailbone Pain From: Chrystal Woodhouse <Chrystal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] hoof protection boots From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] Food related From: MtnRondi@xxxxxxx - Subject: [RC] (no subject) From: "Mary Ann Spencer" <maryann.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] need a horse moved from NE to TX From: Susan & Jerry Milam <milamj@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] hydrogen boost for improving fuel economy 50%? From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] The CorrecTOR From: SturmRanch@xxxxxxx - Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps From: rides2far@xxxxxxxx - Subject: [RC] loose stools - lumps From: Lynn Kinsky <lkinsky@xxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] hydrogen boost for improving fuel economy 50%? From: "Karen Williams" <kc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Subject: [RC] OT - LQ electrical problem -- need answers From: MtnRondi@xxxxxxx - Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps From: Pat Gluckin <pgg@xxxxxxxxx> - Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: NWJH2001@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] TB Racing, Soundness, Speed, Hooves In a message dated 7/18/2006 2:15:17 PM Central Standard Time, tprevatt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Same as TB's 1 Jan for Arabs birthdate. There is not much Arabian racing anymore. The only one in the East is Delaware. Tampa dropped it one Arab race of the week a couple years ago since they were not getting any more that 2 or 3 entries. There are a few other tracks around the country that have Arab racing but it is on the decline. At one time the UAE and Saudi's were big into Arab racing. They've all gone into TB racing big time and don't support Arab racing much anymore. Truman I would just like to note that Arabian Racing is still strong in some areas. The UAE and Saudi's are still interested in Arabian Racing because we sold a few horses not to long ago over there. Just thought I'd put my two cents in. Vanessa Moreau-Sipiere Centurion Stud www.centurionstud.com ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Ranelle Rubin" <raneller@xxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Looking for horse for friend.. HI Ridecampers! I have a friend who is looking for her next best friend. Her current horse is 25 and still able to do short rides of 5 or 6 miles, but she is tired of me having to bring her a horse to ride. Ideally, she is looking for an Arab,, 14.2-15.H, well balanced, all the great things we want in a horse..good feet, legs, etc.. a bay gelding would be ideal, but not mandatory. We are in Northern CA, and she really does not want to travel far. So, if anyone has anything, or knows anyone who does..will you let me know? Thanks, Ranelle Rubin Coaching and Consulting Services The Coaching Center ranelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx raneller@xxxxxxx 916-663-4140 home office 916-718-2427 cellular 916-848-3662 fax Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: WRSINOSKY@xxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps Jeannie posted: >>>Living in "cattle country" I was told by the cowboys that horses need loose salt, as they don't have the same rough tongue as a cow, and therefore don't usually get the salt they need from a salt lick.<<< It is not just cowboys who say this, I've read it in several horse magazines over the years. Unlike Jonni's horses, mine seldom, if ever, touch a salt block. And I live in the Arizona desert with the 115+ temps. Yuck. My poor horses are standing in the shade, sweating. The TB seems especially sensitive to the heat and I know she was born and raised here in the valley. The mustang, Angie, ran with a herd in northeastern CA near Reno, NV. She hates the heat, but doesn't sweat near as much as Miss Cali, the TB. I've been putting some electrolytes in their beet pulp and also loose salt. They scarf it up. Now I have two separate problems. First, my 4 y/o Egyptian arab filly has got the severest case of diarrhea I've seen in a long time. It is practically all water squirting out of her. I've given her pepto bismol and taken her off all supplements until I can figure out what's going on with her. Is she drinking too much? Is it just from the high temps and humidity? Ideas out there? The other problem is with my TB mare. There is always something wrong with this "free" horse. No sooner do I get her walking correctly from hiring a masseuse, then she started limping with an abscess in her RF hoof. I'm taking care of that, but yesterday afternoon when I went out to hose them off for the second time that day, I noticed two very strange "lumps" on her left side. They are located about two-thirds the way down her side on her rib cage and appx. 1 ft below her spine. The "lumps" are appx. 4" in diameter and perfectly round, rising up about 1/16th of an inch. They are not hard when I palpate them and seem to cause her no discomfort. And this horse is a real wimp when it comes to pain. The lumps are about six inches apart, so they are too close for a kick. There is no breakage of the skin, so it isn't a horse bite. What the blazes are they? I think I read about something similar in some book or magazine a while back, but cannot recall where it was or what it is. Any suggestions? cindy edwards buckeye, az ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Farrier.... Heat and cooling in dry climates Angie wrote: I'm worried about how to control the heat for the farrier. Thinking about bringing the horses into the living room. How about an Ez up tent with a fan... Can use the tent at events also... For people who live in dry climates, there are misting lines than can be hung up in covered run in sheds that emit a VERY fine mist that works like evaporative cooling. After coming off a river trip in the canyon land of Utah, we sat in an outdoor patio to have lunch. At first when the friends I was with said patio, I thought they were all crazy because it had to be 100 degrees. BUT when we sat down the management click on the little black emitting lines that put out a VERY fine mist over and around us, and the temp felt wonderful.... Since then I have noticed this in hardware stores in the outdoor garden and patio section where it can be rigged up for home use. Very slick, doesn't use much water and works great in dry climates. When Ran and I worked on a cutting horse ranch in the san Joaquin valley in California in the 80's the ranch we were on had something similar. The barn had a metal roof that had a small hose than ran along the length of the top that emitted a fine trickle of water onto the roof when it started getting hot. The water evaporation made it much cooler in the barn during the heat of the day. Cheryl Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "rides2far@xxxxxxxx" <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Farrier.... Heat and cooling in dry climatesthat emit a VERY fine mist that works likeevaporative cooling. = Evaporation sounds like a wonderful concept. I hope to experience it = before I die. Angie Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Bruised tail bone... Concussion, compaction When I was pre or early teen, my cousins and I were playing like we were long jumpers on a lawn. When I landed, my feet slipped forward on the green grass and I landed VERY hard on my tail bone. Never had it x rayed, but it hurt for weeks, as did my whole lower back. Now fast forward Many years, and I no longer have a disc left between L4-5, bone on bone. I have managed it well, but still gets very sore a times especially after sitting a long time. Anyway, I have often wondered if that particular injury was the set up for damage to that disc very early on.... Landing with that much jolt up the spine could not have been good for it. Take good care of it now to minimize the damage. You can jump in ( no pun intended) on this any time Bruce :>) Cheryl W. Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Steph Teeter" <stephteeter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] True Grit Endurance and Trail Horses For Sale New Advertiser on Endurance Net! True Grit Endurance and Trail Horses "Welcome to True Grit Endurance and Trail Horses located in Pagosa Springs in Southwestern Colorado. Our horses have had experiences travelling steep mountain trails, seeing elk, deer and the mighty squirrels in the woods! Also they have experienced river crossings, and plain ol' dirt roads with monster garbage cans and barking dogs! Selling only 1 or 2 good horses a year insures we have had sufficient experience, knowledge and understanding of the horses that we sell. We also believe and train in Natural Horsemanship Training, and all of our horses are ridden in rope halters or the bitless bridle. We specialize in quality endurance and trail horses that are experienced in the mountains *and* are excellent partners! WE LOVE GOOD HORSES! " http://www.truegrithorses.citymax.com/ Check it Out! =================== www.endurance.net Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: susan x <akela_2777@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] The CorrecTOR Hi, I'm new to ride camp and to endurance riding. I've been working towards making it to a ride to "ride" the ride instead of volunteering for about 9 months now but have had many obstacles along the way and am trying to do things slow and right. To make things short, I bought a new, younger, bigger horse than I had started with because I'm a heavy weight rider. Anyway, since purchasing Jez (new horse) I've had saddle fitting problems after another and it's always in the wither area. I've tried Western treed saddles, Plantation treed saddles, and now my newest purchase an English endurance saddle with air flocking. I'm steadily setting myself up to be a tack shop, LOL!! Getting back to my question. I've just now figured out why all these saddles aren't working. I've taken her in to my vets a couple of times for a sore back and this past time we had plenty of time to talk and look closely at her, or shall I say stand back. Her rump is significantly taller than her withers putting her back in a downhill slope and that's when I really hurt her back is when we take on down hills. I do use a crupper but it doesn't help enough. I've spent MANY hours on the net searching this problem and there's not much information for horses like this. I came across Len Browns "The CorrecTOR" pad and his sight was very informative and it sounds like it might work, but he won't take returns so I was wondering if anyone has used one and what the results were? Or if anyone has had saddle fitting problems similar to mine due to rump being higher than withers? My mentor/ endurance riding friend and I are about to pull our hair out with this problem. Any help will be very welcomed. Thanks, Susan --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Bruce Weary DC <bweary@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Tailbone Pain Cheryl-- I would have to guess that a fall like the one you described would have contributed significantly to your disc degeneration. There are lots of paradoxes in the treatment of back pain. For example, your x-ray findings most often do not correspond with symptoms. You can have ugly x-rays with lots of arthritis present, and be symptom free, and you can have clean looking x-rays but be in agony. Many people who have a tailbone injury presume they "must have" fractured it, but confirmed fractures of the coccyx are actually pretty rare. The pain that seems to be coming from the tip of the tailbone is often actually from the ligaments that attach it to the pelvis on either side. When you take a hard fall on the tailbone, much of the force is absorbed by the sacroiliac joints above. The good news is that most tailbone pain can be eradicated with manipulation to the sacroiliac and hip joints, and deep massage to those ligaments I mentioned. Along with proper treatment, riding sometimes helps this pain, because it causes intermittent stretching and relaxing of those ligaments, which is therapeutic. Riding by itself may aggravate it, so get treatment first. Your thin disc possibly isn't the main cause of your low back pain. Discs deteriorate for various reasons, but the thinning deterioration process is basically a painless one, unless it gets so thin that there is inadequate spacing for the nerves of the area. Most back pain is from the mechanical malfunction of the 100-plus joints of the spine and pelvis that results from daily living--the influence of gravity, injuries, sedentary life (not us, right?) sitting in school for 10-15 years, sitting at work, dinner, movies, TV, driving, lack of exercise, standing on hard surfaces....the list goes on. Over 60% of Americans have disc herniations and don't know it.We know this from all the MRI's that have now been done, and inadvertantly detected them. So when symptoms arise, we can't presume that those symptoms are caused by disc defects that are then found on examination. There are very clear clinical signs for when a disc may be the cause of your pain. The most important skill your doctor can have is a talent for diagnosis. Once we have the right diagnosis, most doctors agree that giving the appropriate treatment is like falling off a log. I want all my patients to know this: Don't presume that alleviation of symptoms is the same as eliminating the underlying cause. Many people try to treat their back pain (which has other factors involved than the pain itself) with meds, ice/heat and time. When their symptoms improve, they breathe a sigh of relief, pat themselves on the back, and move on. Until the next time. Four or more recurrences of back pain put you at greater risk of damage and or chronic pain. IMO, it's better to fix it right the first time. As I tell my patients: "I'm like the undertaker. I'll see you sooner or later." Dr Q world renowned tailbone expert Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chrystal Woodhouse <Chrystal@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] hoof protection boots Leah- I really like the easy boots- they are the cheapest and to this point I haven't had too much trouble with them, I did lose two this year ( last year I lost none doing 50's) however decided I didn't have them tight enough ( was getting lazy :-)) check out Karen's website for lots of info ( you can find it through the easy care website) and MAKE sure your boots are on tight! I usually have to stamp, jump etc.. on them with my foot to get them closed.I also wrap vet wrap on the hoof beforehand. I also don't use the boots on sandy rides ( we have two or three 50's like that) and have always gone barefoot behind- however as we are getting ready for our first 100 this fall I have decided to start putting boots on back in preparation. :-) Good luck! Chrystal:-) "starhaven@xxxxxxxxxxx" <starhaven@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 07/17/2006 06:25 PM To ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject [RC] hoof protection boots Having just finished an incredible hot, humid (beside the point but had to add it) ride with 2 less shoes than I started with for the last 15 miles of the rocky's part, and having my horse do well with out them. I am once again rethinking this barefoot thing, with a protective boot for rocky terrain. I have a pair of Easy boots with gaiters, although they are too big for him and I should put them on Ebay. I've been looking at the varieties of boots. What boot are you all happiest with for long distance. Leah McGregor Starhaven Farm www.hungarianhorse.com 620-432-1322 ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Randy or Cheryl Winter <cherylrandyw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] Food related This was too funny not to share.... Sorry it is not quite on the subject of horses, but please read... Then I am waiting to hear from our southern contingency.... :>) http://www.northwoodssmokeofmn.com/recipes_muskrat.htm Cheryl W Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: MtnRondi@xxxxxxx Subject: [RC] (no subject) This is an interesting site regarding gaits. _http://vanat.cvm.umn.edu/gaits/info.html_ (http://vanat.cvm.umn.edu/gaits/info.html) Bonnie ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Mary Ann Spencer" <maryann.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] need a horse moved from NE to TX If anyone is able to move her any part it would be great. email = privately if you know of anyone. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Susan & Jerry Milam <milamj@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] hydrogen boost for improving fuel economy 50%? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C6AB39.62949CB0 OK guys...heard a program on the radio about using hydrogen to boost gas and diesel MPG. Is this a hoax or is it a viable enhancement given our gas prices right now. Any of you scientists out there know anything about this? Here's the website it cited: http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/ TIA Susan ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C6AB39.62949CB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2912" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006>OK = guys...heard a program on the radio about using hydrogen to boost gas and diesel MPG. = Is this a hoax or is it a viable enhancement given our gas prices right now. Any = of you scientists out there know anything about this?</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006>Here's = the website it cited: <A href="http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/";>http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/</A=</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006>TIA</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=921084118-19072006>Susan</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C6AB39.62949CB0-- Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] The CorrecTOR I've never had this problem myself but an old riding buddy of mine did. Her horse was WAY higher in the rump, and she ended up buying a custom saddle fr= om Annie George. She was very pleased with the saddle she received... it fit h= er mare perfectly and was well balanced for the rider... but I think she told m= e that the service she received during the sale and construction process was below-average. I know I remember her waiting a LOOOONG time for it. Anyway, my point is, if you take precise measurements and photos of your hor= se's back, a quality saddle-maker should be able to make a saddle to fit. The do= wn side is you need to be prepared to spend big bucks... probably over $1500-20= 00 if I had to guess. -Sharon L. Quoting susan x <akela_2777@xxxxxxxxx>:Hi, I'm new to ride camp and to endurance riding. I've been working towa= rdsmaking it to a ride to "ride" the ride instead of volunteering for about 9 months now but have had many obstacles along the way and am trying to do things slow and right. To make things short, I bought a new, younger, big= gerhorse than I had started with because I'm a heavy weight rider. Anyway, since purchasing Jez (new horse) I've had saddle fitting problems after another and it's always in the wither area. I've tried Western treed saddles, Plantation treed saddles, and now my newest purchase an English endurance saddle with air flocking. I'm steadily setting myself up to be = atack shop, LOL!! Getting back to my question. I've just now figured out = whyall these saddles aren't working. I've taken her in to my vets a couple o= ftimes for a sore back and this past time we had plenty of time to talk and look closely at her, or shall I say stand back. Her rump is significantly taller than her withers putting her back in a downhill slope and that's when I really hur=ther back is when we take on down hills. I do use a crupper but it doesn't help enough. I've spent MANY hours on the net searching this problem and there's not much information for horses like this. I came across Len Brow= ns"The CorrecTOR" pad and his sight was very informative and it sounds like = itmight work, but he won't take returns so I was wondering if anyone has use= done and what the results were? Or if anyone has had saddle fitting proble= mssimilar to mine due to rump being higher than withers? My mentor/ enduran= ceriding friend and I are about to pull our hair out with this problem. Any help will be very welcomed. Thanks, Susan --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rate= sstarting at 1=A2/min.Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: SturmRanch@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps Not a clue on lumps, but I spent $3000 on diarrhea last summer. It can become very serious and life threatening. First thing to check is the horse's temperature. Ours needed hospitalization and massive amounts of IV hydration. There are several nasty "bugs" that can cause diarrhea in horses - Hunter tsted negative for them all, but he was still a very sick puppy. Nancy Sturm ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: rides2far@xxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] loose stools - lumpsNot a clue on lumps, but I spent $3000 on diarrhea last summer. It can become very serious and life threatening. First thing to check is the horse's temperature.First question. Has this mare had a foal and are you sure it's diarhea? I bought back a mare that I had sold in foal the year before sight unseen. (This was when I supported my stay at home status with a little trading of beginner horses). When I picked her up she looked a little rough but had recently weaned the foal. Her tail was a mess, kinda sticky. The next day I had her out grooming her and she coughed and urine shot out about 6'! That explained the yukky tail. I called my vet, who happened to be the vet for the woman I'd bought her back from and he told me they had been treating her "over the phone" for diarhea for a while. She'd been given probiotics & stuff. When I told him it was urine because I'd *seen* it he was like "OH!! That explains it!" He said pregnant mares are prone to getting a sort of pocket in their urinary tract that collects urine, then a cough would expell it. I said, "What do we do?" and he said "Cure the cough!" So...there's one more thing you can check for. Wouldn't that be a fun horse to ride in tight quarters in the dusty start of Tevis? No red flag needed! Angie Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Lynn Kinsky <lkinsky@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] hydrogen boost for improving fuel economy 50%?OK guys...heard a program on the radio about using hydrogen to boost gas and diesel MPG. Is this a hoax or is it a viable enhancement given our gas prices right now. Any of you scientists out there know anything about this? Here's the website it cited: <http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/>http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/ TIA SusanThe reports from various sources, is that there is a small savings from the addition of hydrogen to the fuel mixture - about 15%. At current prices that's about 50 cents a gallon. It would take 1600 gallons to pay for it. Also, its a significant additional stress on the battery and generator. I suspect it would shorten their life somewhat. Much greater fuel savings would come from changing driving habits. No lead foot. No jackrabbit starts. No high speeds. Well inflated tires. Keeping engine correctly tuned. Taking advantage of down hill to increase speed. Allow speed to fall off while going up hill. Keep a steady pressure on the gas peddle - don't pump. Drive in anticipation of conditions ahead so as to minimize the use of brakes. Use the highest gear possible. And last but not least, don't use your vehicle unless its absolutely necessary. Obviously when you are not using it, you aren't consuming any gas. The good thing about this approach is it doesn't cost anything except paying attention to what you are doing as you drive. If you have poor diving habits, the device won't help much. If you have good driving habits, you don't need it all that much. Its just one more complicated technological device that can go wrong. I plan to give it a pass. -- Lynn Kinsky, Santa Ynez, CA http://www.silcom.com/~lkinsky/ ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Karen Williams" <kc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [RC] OT - LQ electrical problem -- need answers I had living quarters put in my horse trailer over the winter, installed = by Sierra. It is powered by dual batteries which are charged by a) = truck; b) plug in cord; or c) solar panel on roof. At the last ride I = went to, I noticed the power indicator kept dropping even though the = days were bright and sunny. Everything should have been fully charged. = Eventually the batteries ran down almost completely. My nice neighbor offered me her generator to get things going. We = plugged the trailer into the generator and nothing happened. The = interior lights were still as dim as could be, obviously still running = off the low batteries. We kept it plugged in for quite awhile, but the = batteries still did not recharge. Finally, we hooked a trickle charger directly to the batteries, plugged = it into the generator and got the batteries charged up. So.... it = appears that neither the solar panel nor the 110 connection were = working. The shop I take it to has had it for over a month now. First they told = me the batteries weren't holding a charge (they were if trickle = charged); now they are telling me the inverter might be bad. They are = also telling me that all the lights and water pump run off the batteries = only .. that the plug-in cord is only supposed to charge the batteries. = I thought it was like a dual system -- battery power and electric power. = If you had no batteries and plugged in the electric everything should = work, right? I'm soooooooooo confused at this point and am pretty sure the trailer = shop hasn't a clue. So ... can someone give me a short course on how LQ power sources work? Karen Williams Spotsylvania, VA www.mattariver.com ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: MtnRondi@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps In a message dated 7/19/2006 11:57:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, SturmRanch@xxxxxxx writes: Not a clue on lumps, but I spent $3000 on diarrhea last summer. It can become very serious and life threatening. I had a friend who almost lost her mare to this. The mare was hospitalized for a while and they determined it was salmonella. Bonnie ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Pat Gluckin <pgg@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Heat - Salt licks - loose stools - lumps A neighbor just brought her horse back from Purdue University Animal Hospital after rushing him there due to rapid and massive dehydration. He had diarrhea which is what started the whole dehydration process. They initially thought it was Potomac Fever but tests ruled that out. The horse was kept in isolation until they could determine if the problem was contagious or not. They then figured it was salmonella. He was treated with heavy doses of antibiotics and IV's. I don't know if they are 100% positive they diagnosed accurately. Consequently the horse is in his own pasture and can tough noses with his farm buddies but can't be in the same field. The vets feel that the cause might be passed through fecal matter. Pat At 03:51 PM 7/19/2006 -0400, you wrote: I had a friend who almost lost her mare to this. The mare was hospitalized for a while and they determined it was salmonella. BonnieRidecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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