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Russell Crowe and Mel Gibson on a horse gets my attention...ANYTIME.  :))

"Beverley H. Kane, MD" <sensei@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Check out the American Humane Society Film and Video Unit
http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pa_film_set_casr

Unless the AHS has on-set oversight of a shoot, there is a lag time between
when a film is released and the AHS can rate it. They are quite responsive,
with personal e-, to viewer concerns about possible mishandling of animals.

Unfortunately, in order to monitor animal action, they must be invited and
paid for by the film's producers. Since increasingly film and video is shot
overseas, neither the film's producers nor the AHS ends up being willing or
able, respectively, to pay for oversight. In cases where all that is
possible is indirect oversight, the AHS does try to exert as much positive
influence as it can--talking to vets, zookeepers, and producers.

I went back to AHS a couple of days ago after watching the "Extended" (extra
violent X-[ ) Version of "Gladiator." (In my house we trade off--one action
pic to one chick flick.)
The AHS rates it as "Believed Acceptable." They has ascertained that
horse (and tiger and dog/wolf) footage was a) animatronics or b) trained
horses that fall in slow motion and have the frames/sec sped up for real
time simulation. There was a "No Animals Harmed" disclaimer in the credits
but it wasn't the AHS'. Interesting. My hubby used to work in
Siliwood--Silicon Valley + Hollywood (typically Silicon
Graphics/Pixar/LucasFilm + Dreamworks) on the technical side. Amazing what
they can do w/ animatronics, blue screening, and other special FX.
Russell Crowe, BTW, has a 560 acre cattle ranch in Australia, is quite
the cowboy, did his own riding scenes except for a couple that were stunt
men.

Beverley


On 6/26/06 8:17 AM, "Sky Ranch" wrote:

> I saw the horse being tumbled around also, and noticed the camera angle
> moved up and away from that really quickly -- but probably the average
> "non-horse viewer" did not see it. Hopefully no serious injuries resulted,
> but who knows.
>
> As far the shooting scene, of course real horses were not shot.
>
> Movies have come a long way as far as using and/or abusing horses are
> concerned -- I clearly remember the trip-wire days when horses were tied by
> a front leg, galloped hard out, and when they hit the end of the line there
> was a dramatic fall. I'm sure glad that's outlawed now (thanks to the
> Humane Society, I believe). In fact, I refused to watch Warren Beatty's
> movie epic "Reds" because in that movie they were still using trip-wires and
> other restraints to make dramatic falls. They got away with it because it
> wasn't filmed in the U.S. I never have liked Warren B. very much after
> that.
>
> I have to say, I would have liked Broken Trail a lot more if there had been
> more horse footage and less "scared Chinese girl footage." The 1st part of
> course is all we've seen, the 2nd half is tonight. I'd much rather watch
> horses than people. What do you want to bet they teach the girls to
> ride and wrangle before the end of the show? - hmmm?
>
> Carla Richardson
> Colorado
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raven"
> To: "ridecamp"
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:06 AM
> Subject: [RC] Broken Trail Movie??
>
>
>> Did anyone watch Broken Trail last nite? Does anyone know what happen
>> to the horse that was trampled over by the herd? It happen when the
>> cowboys were first running the herd for 10 miles to get them "calmed
>> down"....that poor horse falls, rolls over & over and is trampled over
>> by at least 4-5 horses. I would really....like to know what happen top
>> that poor horse!! And I am disappointed that the film director would
>> allow that(fall/injury) to happen in the first place and then...have
>> the nerve to use that footage.
>>
>> Also...were live horses used for the shoot out? When the horses were
>> tripped??? Or were those dummy horses?
>>
>> I was trying to watch the closing credits to see if they stated "No
>> Animals Injured during the filming", or if the Humane Society was
>> present during the animal filming to make sure that no animals were
>> hurt. Raven in WI
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