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Re: [RC] Gaited horse statistics - Teri Hunter

I agree. I am just stating to get true stats the registration would tell what it is, not what you think it is.
One way to remove all doubt is to state the breed and then put down if the horse is registered. The drop down would say yes or no. Then have a comparison of those that are registered and those that are grade. Let's say you have 500 1/2 arabs and 400 state they are registered. This will tell you that we know for sure that 400 are actually 1/2 arabs not just guesses. If the horse is registered but you never had it transferred to your name it is still registered. I have a 1/2 arab and I was told a spotted saddle horse. Looks more like a saddlebred to me.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristen A Fisher" <kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Teri Hunter'" <teri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'ridecamp'" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited horse statistics


My point is, they do not have to be "registered" to be the breed they are.

The sire & dam are what they are, producing a foal that is what it is,
whether there are official papers that say so. If both parents are Arabs,
the get is an Arab, whether you pay your $ to AHA or not.

-----Original Message-----
From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teri Hunter
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:20 PM
To: Kristen A Fisher; 'Sharon Levasseur'
Cc: 'ridecamp'
Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited horse statistics

If you want accurate statistics then they should be listed as
they are either registered or not registered.  If you
register them how you feel then the stats are not true.
Truman, master of stats, tell me your thoughts.

Teri

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristen A Fisher" <kskf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Teri Hunter'" <teri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Sharon Levasseur'"
<sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "'ridecamp'" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: [RC] Gaited horse statistics


> If one parent is an Arabian and one is not, the result is a
half-arab, and
> can and should be listed as such in AERC IMO.
>
> Whether or not it is registered with the AHA is an entirely
separate
> point.
> AERC chooses to let people self-identify what their horse's
breed is.
>
> Kristen
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teri Hunter
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:41 PM
>> To: Sharon Levasseur; Michael Maul
>> Cc: ridecamp
>> Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited horse statistics
>>
>> I could be mistaken here but a half arab is registered.  A
>> grade is not registered so if you have an arabian that is not
>> registered it is a grade not half arabian.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sharon Levasseur" <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Michael Maul" <mmaul@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "ridecamp" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RC] Gaited horse statistics
>>
>>
>> >I bet I wasn't the only person who thought since my horse
>> didn't have a
>> > registration number, I wasn't ALLOWED to choose half-Arab.
>> >
>> > I'll be making the change soon, thanks.  Although, if there
>> WAS a "gaited"
>> > designation I think I would not mark it, as the trot is our
>> endurance gait
>> > of
>> > choice.  His foxtrot is too slow.  The only reason I ever
>> tell anyone he's
>> > gaited is that the vets sometimes see him foxtrot and if I
>> didn't tell
>> > them in
>> > advance they'd definitely be surprised!!
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > -Sharon L. & Zephyr the Arab/RMH
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Quoting Michael Maul <mmaul@xxxxxxxxx>:
>> >
>> >> Laney,
>> >>
>> >> The categories we have now just "grew" in response to
>> member requests
>> >> for their particular breed.
>> >>
>> >> If I had to guess - half Arab means that the horse is
listed in the
>> >> partbred section of the AHA registry and that Arab
cross is not.  I
>> >> could be wrong on this.  In the partbred AHA records -
we can get
>> >> pedigrees for AAHR and HAHR.
>> >>
>> >> I personally would chose grade only if I didn't have any
>> clue what the
>> >> breed was.  Other is if none of the other 59 categories
>> fits but is a
>> >> real breed.
>> >>
>> >> There are certainly  horses that gait and the owner
>> doesn't have a clue
>> >> what they are.
>> >>
>> >> At the Old Glory ride last w/e, I was riding behind a gal
>> and noticed
>> >> she wasn't posting.  I asked her what type of gaited
horse she was
>> >> riding and she didn't know.  She certainly liked riding
him though.
>> >>
>> >> Making sure your horse is listed correctly in the records
>> helps us get
>> >> better statistics for breed awards as well as just better data.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> Laney Humphrey wrote:
>> >> > Maybe the time has come to really encourage people to
>> update their
>> >> > horses' information.  I wish that the "arab cross" and
>> "half arab"
>> >> > groups could be combined because they are the same
>> thing.  However, it
>> >> > would be very nice to know what the other "half" or
>> "cross" is too. If
>> >> > folks are interested in whether a horse is gaited or
>> not, there should
>> >> > be a way to indicate that for breeds where it wouldn't
>> be normal.  That
>> >> > would include even "arab cross" and "half arab."  There
>> are also gaited
>> >> > appaloosas, morgans and quite a few others, including
"arab" and
>> >> > certainly "grade."
>> >> > laney
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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