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RE: [RC] 100's - elevators/de-elevators - Alison FarrinBut you paid to enter the 100, so the ride manager's cost is covered. Again, the premise is encouraging someone to do a 100. If you give them the opportunity to try harder, without penalizing them for their completed miles, how are you hurting anyone? Steph did a good job of putting into words how I feel about pulling as well. I HATE doing "expensive training rides". I won't compromise my horse's health and I'm going to pull when warranted, but like Steph, I'm still rehashing pulls from 2 years ago! WHY is giving credit for 50 a bad precedent, if the whole point is to extend the opportunity to ride for 100? I can see the argument of sliding down the slippery slope to giving credit for 25 etc., but it doesn't wash, as anything under 50 isn't endurance mileage in any event. WHY do we have to mandate that "you pays your nickel and you takes your chances?" Give me reasons WHY this is a bad idea? I can't think of any. Alison A. Farrin -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Truman Prevatt Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:15 AM To: ridecamp Subject: Re: [RC] 100's - elevators/de-elevators While this sounds good on paper in reality this is probably where the "law of unintended consequences" would rear its ugly head. It takes more financial investment on the part of the ride manager to run a 100. It takes commitment on the part of the ride manager to run a 100. Some ride managers spend time finding and marking extra trail for the 100. So for whatever reason the riders don't feel like going on after 50, they just call it a day and take the 50 and go home. I just don't think the concept if fair to the ride managers. If the ride manager has the extra commitment to put on and run a 100, then I don't think it is too much to ask for the riders that show up to do it have the commitment to go the distance or pull just like in any other distance. IMO allowing someone to stop and still get credit is the worst precedent that could be set. You pays you nickle you takes your chances. Truman Steph Teeter wrote: Tom suggested that we might consider a 100/50 'de-elevator' ride. Sign up for the 100 (e.g.) and if you finish, great, full points. However if at 50 miles (e.g.) you or your horse have had enough, you have the option (once) of stopping and keeping miles/completion only for a 50 mile ride. Honestly I think this idea is worth considering. It doesn't take any of the glory and satisfaction out of finishing a 100 (no more than if other riders were DQ'd at 50), it gives a little safety net for those that would like to try a 100, but are nervous for whatever reason. And I personally HATE TO PULL, I just hate it and feel crappy for weeks. If I were entered in a 100, and halfway through felt that my horse was not up to the game that day (travelled poorly, dehydrated, tack problems, rubbing boots, bad shoe job, etc etc) and I had the option of stopping at 50, save the big effort for another day, but not have to be DQ'd, I would love it! Maybe I'm weak and lacking in higher human qualities, but I really really hate a PULL. So for civil discussion - pros/cons of Elevator rides? pros/cons of De-Elevator rides? Steph -- "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." - Albert Einstein =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= CONFIDENTIAL This communication (including any attachments) may contain privileged or confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this communication and/or shred the materials and any attachments and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this communication, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Thank you. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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