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Several people have replied privately asking for prices and sources, so I will
respond to the group.

My vet is charging me $110 for a 12mL vial, and that will cover the first 6
doses.  You can get it for $93 from www.farmvet.com but you need a prescription
anyway, and there are some heavy shipping charges.  It would have been over $20
to ship to my area.

The concensus among the four vets on Zephyr's case is that he should only need
the first 6 doses to resolve this particular issue.  They hope that I won't
need to give it on a regular basis, but if I do, it should be a
one-dose-a-month thing.

It might not help at all, but if it doesn't help it certainly won't hurt.

-Sharon L.
www.zegifts.com


Quoting ll cole <bluemoonfarm90@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

>       Absolutely!!! After reading the links it almost sounds too good to
> be true. What does it cost per dose or per vial?
>
>       Barry Cole,  Kansas
>
> -------------------------
>  From:  _Sharon Levasseur _
> To:  _Barb Peck _
> CC:  _ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:  _Re: [RC] Helping Lame Horses--Legend and Adequan_
> Date:  _Tue, 09 May 2006 11:09:06 -0400_
> "...I don't have a problem with either of these substances because
> they do not
> "mask" an exisiting problem- we're taking supplying the right
> materials for a
> body to heal/repair..."
>
> I would be interested in finding out what these treatments are as
> compared to
> RVI (Rubeola Virus Immunomodulator) which I just ordered for my
> horse.
> http://www.eudaemonic.net/agentfor.htm
>
> Legend and Adequan focus on the joints, I take it?  RVI seems to be
> focused on
> the muscles and the connective tissues around the joints.  It too
> aids in
> healing / repairing / detoxifying without masking pain... apparently
> it does so
> by somehow boosting the immune system to better fight inflammation.
> It's QUITE
> common on the Standardbred tracks around here, the vets I've spoken
> to have had
> awesome results with it.
>
> I'm trying it to help Zephyr with a chronic muscle soreness that
> seems to come
> and go in his right front leg, and which has not responded well to
> massage or
> acupuncture.
>
> If the group has any interest in my one-rat study, I will post the
> findings.
>
> -Sharon L.
> www.zegifts.com
>
> Quoting Barb Peck :
>
> > Although I prefer the lighter muscled longer distance-abled horses-
> > several years ago I ended up with a 1300 lb QH.
> >
> > This guy had alot of strikes against him from the get-go.
> >
> > But I'll  make a very long story short about him and our use of
> using Legend
> > (IV hyalauronic acid  (HA))
> > and Adequan ( IM PSGAGS) because he was such a perfect test case.
> >
> > My vet and I experimented with him first using one or the other
> >  - then both together first to alleviate symptoms - then to prevent
> (or keep
> > stable)
> > then as maintenance when he was retired.
> >
> > This is a horse where I could see (and feel riding)  a more fluid
> movement 24
> > hrs after an injection of either
> >
> > WHen the injectios were not continued - I could feel and see a
> slight
> > downward trend (this included length and fluidity of stride- and
> presence (or
> > not) of throro pin in the hock, with the improvements pretty much
> being over
> > in about 6 months..
> >
> > Don (my Vet) and I decided  on using both Legend and Adequan
> together and the
> > results were very very good, and they lasted alot longer (thru the
> whole
> > season).
> > These injections aren't cheap ($80.00 each) though.
> >
> > Whether these substances are truly legal for competition is for
> others to
> > decide ( I know an east coast rider, who's horses get injections of
> Legend
> > monthly) -
> > but I don't have a problem with either of these substances because
> they do
> > not "mask" an exisiting problem- we're taking supplying the right
> materials
> > for a body to heal/repair.
> >
> > - and incidentally - HA is now FDA approved for humans and I've
> talked to a
> > few people who avoided pretty serious knee operations by being
> injected &
> > they said the results were amazing.
> >
> > Are these two substances banned in Endurance?
> >  Barb
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