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Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length - rdcarrie

I find that I have to change stirrup lengths for my 3 horses.  I have the stirrups the longest for my 5 year old (14.2h)...he's incredibly smooth, lots of impulsion, and doesn't launch me high.  I have to bring them up a bit for my 7 year old (15.1 1/2h) that I'm riding the most.  He has a lot more action, and when he really gets to flying, I can't keep my butt out of the saddle long enough with longer stirrups, even with using my thighs.  I tend to lose a stirrup occasionally.  And then there's my 20 year old (15.2h)...when he's doing his "normal" trot, I can ride him with stirrups the same length as the 7 year old.  But to comfortably handle his huge power trot at rides, I need to shorten them.  But then my knees bother me.
 
Dawn
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:26:34 -0400
Subject: Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length

I am not one of those folks blessed with years and many $$ worth of riding
lessons.  I've never even had ONE riding lesson on the horse I've had for the
last 4 years.

He's one of those 14.2h little guys with the monster trot... I call it the 747
Trot because it feels like someone stuck a jet engine up his butt... I also
always say you could read a magazine on the up-post... and the only way I can
ride that trot is with short stirrups.  Not incredibly short, just a tad
shorter than ankle-bone, but definitely shorter than I used to ride before I
got him.  If I don't do that I find myself standing on tippietoe to get my
crotch out of the saddle far enough to spend enough time in the air to come
down when I should.

I do not personally find that it makes me arch my back or stick my butt out...
in fact I'm still fighting with a slight tendency to sit on my back pockets and
round my spine a little bit.  I'm not even bothering to fight my tendency to
hunch my shoulders... that's a fight I lost years ago when I was 8" taller than
all the girls in my class!!

Just my two cents...

-Sharon L.
www.zegifts.com


Quoting Laney Humphrey <laneyhh@xxxxxxxxxxx>:

> There are many, many excellent teachers out there, each with their own
> take on what's the "correct" way to do things.  I think communication
> style has a lot to do with whether a particular teacher's message
> resonants with a person.  A teacher who really says and does things in
> ways that make sense to me is Peggy Cummings/Connected Riding. I had
> been struggling with instability/butt out/arched back/gripping with my
> knees.  She showed me a very different way of riding including using
> shorter stirrups to free up some joints as well as working not to grip
> with my knees.  The change in my comfort and security level is amazing,
> and what's even better is that my horse feels better and isn't a spooker
> any more!!!
> Laney
>
> Beverley H. Kane, MD wrote:
> > Angie--Certainly you know what works best for you. (Tho, I too have felt
> the
> > mortification of being videotaped with the resulting film title, Curious
> > George Rides a Horse.)
> >
> > Intuitively, and for my body, shortening the stirrups results in some
> > destabilization of the legs and body.
> > The shorter the stirrups, the more bent the knees.
> > The more bent the knees, the more I tend toward bum out, chest forward,
> > bigger angle for the pelvis to rise through, more work for the quads and
> > knees, more angled contact w/ inner thighs.
> >  Hence all this practice posting w/o stirrups, as others have mentioned, so
> > the post comes from the motion of the horse, the thrust of the pelvis, and
> > light contact w/ the inner thigh--not by pushing off w/ the feet.
> > My Arab mare has a really rough trot (tho...I can now actually -sit- it in
> > my Barefoot Cheyenne.)
> > So I try to ride w/ stirrups as long as possible, still being able to keep
> > heels down.
> > (I suspect a lot of people w/ knee problems are riding w/ stirrups too
> > short.)
> >
> > When I did my Sports Medicine Fellowship, we dissected the gaits of runners
> > in slo mo video on ourselves and on world champions. It has never ceased to
> > amaze me how theoretically bad a runner's biomechanics can be and they're
> > still champions and pain free.
> >
> > Beverley
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <rides2far@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:55 AM
> > Subject: RE: [RC] posting?? manes??
> >
> >
> > [snip]. Before an endurance ride I have to shorten my stirrups a lot on
> > Kaboot just to make my "up" arch long enough to come down when he does and
> > not have to tip toe. Does that make sense? I readjust my stirrups a lot. If
> > I plan to ride slowly, I ride with them longer but if my horses are going
> to
> > do their power trot I can't maintain what feels like the correct position,
> > with ankles, knees and hips relaxed and in that "perpetual motion" groove
> > unless my stirrups are shorter and I'm up longer.
> >
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Replies
RE: [RC] posting?? manes??, rides2far@xxxxxxxx
Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length, Beverley H. Kane, MD
Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length, Laney Humphrey
Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length, Sharon Levasseur