Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length - rdcarrieI find that I have to change stirrup lengths for my 3 horses. I have the stirrups the longest for my 5 year old (14.2h)...he's incredibly smooth, lots of impulsion, and doesn't launch me high. I have to bring them up a bit for my 7 year old (15.1 1/2h) that I'm riding the most. He has a lot more action, and when he really gets to flying, I can't keep my butt out of the saddle long enough with longer stirrups, even with using my thighs. I tend to lose a stirrup occasionally. And then there's my 20 year old (15.2h)...when he's doing his "normal" trot, I can ride him with stirrups the same length as the 7 year old. But to comfortably handle his huge power trot at rides, I need to shorten them. But then my knees bother me.
Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Levasseur <sharon1359@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 12:26:34 -0400 Subject: Re: [RC] posting?? manes??//Angie/Stirrup Length I am not one of those folks blessed with years and many $$ worth of riding lessons. I've never even had ONE riding lesson on the horse I've had for the last 4 years. He's one of those 14.2h little guys with the monster trot... I call it the 747 Trot because it feels like someone stuck a jet engine up his butt... I also always say you could read a magazine on the up-post... and the only way I can ride that trot is with short stirrups. Not incredibly short, just a tad shorter than ankle-bone, but definitely shorter than I used to ride before I got him. If I don't do that I find myself standing on tippietoe to get my crotch out of the saddle far enough to spend enough time in the air to come down when I should. I do not personally find that it makes me arch my back or stick my butt out... in fact I'm still fighting with a slight tendency to sit on my back pockets and round my spine a little bit. I'm not even bothering to fight my tendency to hunch my shoulders... that's a fight I lost years ago when I was 8" taller than all the girls in my class!! Just my two cents... -Sharon L. www.zegifts.com Quoting Laney Humphrey <laneyhh@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > There are many, many excellent teachers out there, each with their own > take on what's the "correct" way to do things. I think communication > style has a lot to do with whether a particular teacher's message > resonants with a person. A teacher who really says and does things in > ways that make sense to me is Peggy Cummings/Connected Riding. I had > been struggling with instability/butt out/arched back/gripping with my > knees. She showed me a very different way of riding including using > shorter stirrups to free up some joints as well as working not to grip > with my knees. The change in my comfort and security level is amazing, > and what's even better is that my horse feels better and isn't a spooker > any more!!! > Laney > > Beverley H. Kane, MD wrote: > > Angie--Certainly you know what works best for you. (Tho, I too have felt > the > > mortification of being videotaped with the resulting film title, Curious > > George Rides a Horse.) > > > > Intuitively, and for my body, shortening the stirrups results in some > > destabilization of the legs and body. > > The shorter the stirrups, the more bent the knees. > > The more bent the knees, the more I tend toward bum out, chest forward, > > bigger angle for the pelvis to rise through, more work for the quads and > > knees, more angled contact w/ inner thighs. > > Hence all this practice posting w/o stirrups, as others have mentioned, so > > the post comes from the motion of the horse, the thrust of the pelvis, and > > light contact w/ the inner thigh--not by pushing off w/ the feet. > > My Arab mare has a really rough trot (tho...I can now actually -sit- it in > > my Barefoot Cheyenne.) > > So I try to ride w/ stirrups as long as possible, still being able to keep > > heels down. > > (I suspect a lot of people w/ knee problems are riding w/ stirrups too > > short.) > > > > When I did my Sports Medicine Fellowship, we dissected the gaits of runners > > in slo mo video on ourselves and on world champions. It has never ceased to > > amaze me how theoretically bad a runner's biomechanics can be and they're > > still champions and pain free. > > > > Beverley > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> > > To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 4:55 AM > > Subject: RE: [RC] posting?? manes?? > > > > > > [snip]. Before an endurance ride I have to shorten my stirrups a lot on > > Kaboot just to make my "up" arch long enough to come down when he does and > > not have to tip toe. Does that make sense? I readjust my stirrups a lot. If > > I plan to ride slowly, I ride with them longer but if my horses are going > to > > do their power trot I can't maintain what feels like the correct position, > > with ankles, knees and hips relaxed and in that "perpetual motion" groove > > unless my stirrups are shorter and I'm up longer. > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp > > > > Ride Long and Ride Safe!! > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp > > > > Ride Long and Ride Safe!! > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > > > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. > Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp > Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp > > Ride Long and Ride Safe!! > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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