Re: [RC] Saddle horse - Nancy SturmI have wondered if the fact that the Standardbred has to trot/pace at speed, pulling a cart among other horses pulling carts along with the starting process, race track noises etc, had the result that they were "accidentally" selected for temperment. Nancy Sturm [Original Message] From: <sehredt@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 2/13/2005 8:00:04 AM Subject: Re: [RC] Saddle horse Genetics is an amazing science. I am constantly surprised by the Standardbred's calm, willing intelligence. Here is another horse bred for nothing but speed (at the trot, yes, but speed nonetheless). The breeding for a "standard" speed or better has been supremely successful - this is the WORLD'S premier trotter. And yet I have never met or owned one who was not calm, willing, gentle, and intelligent - almost the opposite of what TB's have made us think of when we hear "race horse." I know there was a long thread here recently regarding StdBreds, so I won't belabor the point. Just an observation that throws a weird kink into the whole "bred for one purpose" arguement! Breeding these horses for a fast trot has somehow made them INCREDIBLE trail mounts. :o) Scott ---- heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:I missed Hiedi's post so I don't know what led to Kat's slam of the thoroughbred horse.I can only say that she must have missed MY post too, since it included the statement that I am of the opinion that the Thoroughbred is "The most athletic horse of the face of the planet."I had meant to get back to kat's post disagreeing with me when I had said that no breed was being bred to be a saddle horse in modern times, at least not in its mainstream breeding. Her statement here helps to underscore one of my points. She is right that the TB is a very athletic horse. However, he is bred to be a specialist, and that specialty does not lend itself to being a saddle horse. The dynamics of having to run fast does dictate that the TB maintains some aspects of being a good saddle horse, since a horse with poor balance and incorrect ratios cannot shave the necessary seconds off of his race time to be considered an asset in a TB breeding program. TB people do not go out and compare angles and ratios--but they do look at times, and the horse cannot achieve the times without the proper angles and ratios. And admittedly, this is the aspect of athleticism and conformation that has most consistently gone down the drain in breeds that have been bred for show. However, to equate this with "being bred to be a saddle horse" is quite a stretch. The TB has been specialized for speed to the extent that other necessary traits to being a saddle horse have gone down the drain--among them disposition, foot quality, and longevity for performance. Like other breeds, you can look among the ranks of the TB and still find individuals who possess those necessary qualities and therefore make good saddle horses. But like other breeds, being a saddle horse is not the focus of the mainstream breeding, and hence one still has to select individuals that do possess the necessary traits from among the ranks of the many who don't. And, like other breeds, the more classic sorts of TBs also make the best saddle horses. Heidi =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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