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RE: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? - Pam DeMerchantHey, now. Magnesium is not equal to Ritalin. Unfair comparison. I totally agree that people should focus on training first (and for a long time-I like and have learned from your articles), not supplementation as an easy way out of spooking issues. However, for the horse that after substantial training doesn't have his spooking under control, imo, feed and supplementation is the next route to go. You say some horses aren't worth the trouble. Maybe you'd give up on mine, but instead of passing him on to someone else and someone else where he might end up at the slaughterhouse, I'm willing to work with him. I like this thread. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Holland <lanconn@xxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 31, 2005 6:09 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? Yeah, and some people think giving Ritalin to kids is appropriate to control behavior. They think that causes a "marked and notable" behavior improvement. I don't. Sounds like a placebo effect to me. :) Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic Richard T. "Jim" Holland Three Creeks Farm 175 Hells Hollow Drive Blue Ridge, Ga 30513 (706) 258-2830 www.threecreeksarabians.com Callsign KI4BEN -----Original Message----- From: Alison Farrin [mailto:Alison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:49 PM To: Jim Holland Subject: RE: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? Sometimes its feed. The horse I have that needs extra magnesium is perfectly capbable of focusing on it and not capable off it. The difference is marked and notable. Alison A. Farrin -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim Holland Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 3:45 PM To: 'Jennifer Fleet'; ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? Whoa, Whoa! Time out here! Every time I hear about behavior problems, people want to fix it with feed. Get OVER it! It ain't FEED! Alfafa makes them HOT, grain makes them HOT. Time to vent. My humble apologies in advance for anyone I offend. Folks, it's TRAINING! <sigh> If your horse is "looking" at all that "stuff" out there instead of flicking an ear back to you to see what YOU think, you got a PROBLEM! Spook in place, check with rider, yes. Spook and spin, no, no, no.... Got to a Parelli class, do some dressage, do something, but FORGET about FIXING it with FEED. Ain't gonna happen. If you CAN'T fix it with training, then find another horse. Like people, (New Orleans looting is an example) there are horses who are NOT worth your trouble. JMHO. Jim, Sun of Dimanche+, and Mahada Magic Richard T. "Jim" Holland Three Creeks Farm 175 Hells Hollow Drive Blue Ridge, Ga 30513 (706) 258-2830 www.threecreeksarabians.com Callsign KI4BEN -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jennifer Fleet Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 5:45 PM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [RC] Magnesium for spooky horse? Heidi or Dr. Garlinghouse? Okay, I've had it with the spook and spins. After almost three years of riding Shahtahr and managing to sit his huge spooks, he finally dumped me at a CTR this weekend. He was unusually nervous and spooky during the morning of the ride, and did three huge spooks at NOTHING (drop and spins) within an hour. The second one sent me flying. I have heard that supplementing with magnesium can have a calming effect on some horses. I used it on my mare years ago and I recall it helping somewhat. My gelding is on the following feed: morning: 1 flake alfalfa or alfalfa/bermuda mix (depending on what the barn owner buys) evening: 1 1/2 flakes orchard grass hay that I supply (he'd get grass both feedings but I have to pay for it on top of full board and at $15/bale I can't afford it) 2 scoops Platinum Peformance vitamin/mineral supplement 1 cup ground flax seed 2,000 iu vitamin E 5 lbs carrots glucosamine and MSM supplements (MSM is withdrawn before rides) So....given the above, I'm wondering if additional magnesium would help....he already gets alfafa in the morning, which I believe has a high magnesium content, so it might be pointless to try. Platinum Peformance has a producet called Platinum Gentle that is magnesium, calcium, and thianine (sp?) - an amino acid that has a calming affect - it is all legal for competition and is formulated to be fed along with Platinum Performance without causing any imbalances. Could this be of any benefit, seeing's how my horse is already getting alfalfa in the a.m. ? Any other suggestions to try? Valium, Prozac, Xanax, a bullet? LOL Just kidding Shahtahr! Jennifer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. 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