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Sorry  I was writing fast and taking notes --- He mentioned that Michigan 
State was doing research  as  was--  the University of Queensland in 
Australia-- he said it wasn't  pleasant-- but most research in disease does 
take place in animals where they have to induce  the disease, as humanely as 
possible , then put  the animals down and study them.  It is a fact of life. 
Most research animals are are more humanely treated than many livestock or 
backyard  animals are.   The ethics of it is another discussion.  Many 
things are done in showing ,racing, even the way we stabel and feed our 
animals  that are crueler than  careful research. .
  I apoligise for  not being careful --it was late and I was fighting a 
virus and wished to share the info , not cause  a backlash against the 
research. I'd rather see the unwanted horses  used in humanely treated 
research facilities to help other horses, than just become dog chow.
  And Pete was not "involved" in the reserch, but he was just passing on 
the  scientifical information to us , that  he knew about.
   Forgive  me for not proof reading, always been my  
weakness........................

> From: "Chastain, Shannon L." <slchast@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "L gin" <ladurgin@xxxxxxx>,<Ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [RC]   Went to Pete Ramey Clinic... research info
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:30:30 -0500
>
> I was pretty upset when I read this because I use the Ramey trim and have 
> always respected this origination but when I read this paragraph (see 
> below) from the original post it upset me they would be associated with any 
> research that would purposely force a horse into founder.
>
>  	Also  he says Michaigan State  Queensland  are doing research about to
> publish - what goes on  with Laminitus and foundering.  Inducing founder  
> by
> tubing  horses with wheat flour and water , I believe , then putting them
> down  at intervals to see what is happening..
> !st thing  increase  in MMP enzymes-which severly wound or destroy  the BM
> membrane.This can be regrown, but must be produced at the coronary. You 
> will
> have weaness top to bottom till you grow it out.     But the rest  you need
> to go find on the Michigan stae website/ as I didnt' get it all in my
> notes..
>
> So I emailed Pete and Ivy Ramey and got this reply
>
> Shannon,
>
> You have received some misinformation.
>
> The University and veterinary doing this research is Dr. Chris Pollitt and
> The University of Queensland in Australia. You can link to this research at
> www.uq.edu.au/~apcpolli/  If the link does not work it is also posted on 
> our
> website. When you arrive at Dr. Pollitt's site look for his articles, this
> particular article is titled "C.C.Pollitt (1994) The basement membrane at
> the equine hoof dermal epidermal junction." The informational research we
> are teaching comes from several of the articles.
>
>
> Once again this is not the work of MSU or Dr. Bowker.
> I would really appreciate it if you would go back to the Ridecamp group and
> inform them of this.
>
> Please let me know if I can help you with anything further,
> Ivy
>
> Shannon
>
>
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