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Re: [RC] Poop Patrol - Barbara McCraryYou're right, Kat. Although the situation may be completely illogical, in a park, rangers have control, and there's little one can do about that. So the best method is to be diplomatic and either acquiesce or negotiate, but don't irritate or anger. Politeness and consideration usually works, and if it doesn't, then give up and do it their way. Some rangers aren't as nice as others. Politeness, consideration, and diplomacy works with some, nothing works with others, except to do it their way. Figure out which kind you are dealing with...... Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "k s swigart" <katswig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: [RC] Poop Patrol Kathy Garner said:A ranger stopped & told us we couldn't stand there, we had to go to the dirt area (no shade, no grass). When asked why, he said people might not like the horse poop. My reply was "As opposed to all the dirty diapers & dog poop lying all over the ground." He didn't think it was funny. We told him okay, & then just stood there. He finally left, we didn't leave, & we still stop there.This is the kind of thing that gets horses banned from public campgrounds entirely. What MY reply would have been (if I didn't just move over into the dirt....c'mon we are talking about 10 minutes here), "Would it be okay for me to stay here as long as I clean up if my horse poops so that it won't be left lying around? I have brought along the means to do that." And this probably would have achieved exactly the same thing, except for the part where the ranger leaves in a huff. Although it may have gotten a share of the ranger's granola bar for my horse (my experience is that people like to share their food with horses); and then we could have comiserated together those inconsiderate dog owners and baby minders who leave their detrius lying about, unlike us conscientous horse owners who come prepared to clean up after our horses. Little is gained by pissing off rangers by confronting them and then ignoring their requests....and there is a lot to be lost. That ranger is going to carry a negative impression of horse people around with him for a LOOOOONG time. Does nobody besides me understand the concept of what it means to be outnumbered in a democracy (democracy is another word for tyranny of the majority)? kat Orange County, Calif. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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