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RE: [RC] Gold Country Awards - bobmorrisWell, I happen to disagree with the principle and with what the Ride Manager is doing. While the preponderance of the riders entered are eventual completers, a "Participation Award" not comply with the tenet's of the AERC Rules and Regulations. It is expressly stated in Rule 6., as well as in Rule L6.3 All rider who successfully complete the ride must receive a completion award. Now, that statement "must receive a completion award" is not being complied with with-in the intent of the rule. Nor is it being complied with with-in the traditions of endurance riding and the postulate "to finish is to win". To finish is to win a completion award and the ride managers who believe that their "participation award" fulfills this requirement are absolutely wrong. In their venue there is no difference between participating and finishing. The rider that vets out at the first vet check is awarded at the same level as the finishers. This is not only incorrect but subject to a protest. I ask these ride managers, is the integrity of endurance competition subversive to your convenience? Let's see a bit more spirit of true endurance ride management. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara McCrary Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:34 PM To: glassman1@xxxxxxxxxxxx; rides2far@xxxxxxxx Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Gold Country Awards I must agree with Angie. If a prize is given even when there is no accomplishment, in this case being a ride completion, what is the value of the prize? I think it sends the wrong message, especially to kids. Sorry, I cannot agree with giving "participation" awards, but each ride manager must do what he or she wants. I'm not going to judge either the ride or the manager for what is done; I just happen to disagree with the principle. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <rides2far@xxxxxxxx> To: <glassman1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: [RC] Gold Country Awards We feel that everyone who has paid their money to come tothe ride, driven long distances to get there, and has put their heart and soul into coming to our ride deserves to get something for that.No offense. I just disagree. Not with *someone else* in mind...but picturing myself..even in the early days. If you never taste the bitter, the sweet is not as sweet. Completions get to be pretty boring, until you get pulled a few times, then they feel GREAT. How good does your mattress at your house feel? Well...if YOU sleep in a super luxurious camper I'll bet that mattress feels about 1/2 as good as *mine* feels after I return from a weekend on my cot. :-) Do we all insist on being on a constant state of up? How's about a down now and then to make up feel higher? I've gone home with nothing a few times, and I've been given t-shirts for rides I didn't finish. Don't like to wear them, I'd rather forget those rides. I don't understand people who go ride a course and pack up and leave. Heck, sometimes I think the only reason I go through riding the course is to be able to hang out with everyone afterwards. Angie ____________________________________________________________ ____ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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