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RE: [RC] Spooking and punishment - bobmorrisI would ask, why is the use of a round pen definitely our of the question. If the horse is properly trained it will walk in the round pen as well as any other place. The round pen is not a place of indiscriminate running. It is a place of absolute control of the horse with out being on or fastened to it. The use of faster speeds in a round pen is counterproductive in most training situations. Every thing I do in the round pen is done at a walk for many, many sessions before a slow trot is ever allowed. I have very often used the pen for rehab where the walk is the preferred gait due to the ease of control while not interfering with the horse. Bob Bob Morris Morris Endurance Enterprises Boise, ID -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JL Thompson Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:45 AM To: Ed & Wendy Hauser Cc: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [RC] Spooking and punishment -----Original Message----- From: Ed & Wendy Hauser <ranch@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Jul 13, 2004 7:26 AM To: ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, Lif Strand <lif@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [RC] Spooking and punishment While round penning, or other safe education programs would be the ideal method of changing this behavior, if I read the original post properly, this horse is recovering from an injury and must be hand walked every day. Round penning at this time is not an option. --------------------------------------- OP here, and yes, he is injured so round-penning is definitely out. :) ------------------------------------------ As far as negative reinforcement not stopping a horse from spooking in a particular direction, that is just not so. While I will be the first to admit that sometimes horses spook into things that hurt them, most of the time they do not. I'd be willing to bet that the subject horse does not spook into the fence, gate, electric fence, or barn when he spooks. ----------------------------------------------------------- No, he does not spook blindly into surrounding objects. He's not loco. He is actually a pretty good boy. Usually pretty mellow. It is very disturbing to me that he is getting increasingly spooky while being led, but I have to keep in mind how much his life has changed since his injury. He lived his whole life on 80 acres, until I bought him. Then he was on 1 or 2 acres, with other horses. Now he is in a 12x24 corral with 15 minutes of being led around at a walk only. He's probably a little pent-up to say the least. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------- If he is that out of control that the normal things around a farm cause him to blindly spook with no regard to his safety, the cure is far beyond my abilities and I will gracefully bow out of this discussion. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------ Yeah, and I would gracefully bow out of owning him! LOL Thanks again Ed and Lif for your opinions and help! Jennifer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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