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Re: [RC] Grapes-toxic? Or chocolate? - Barbara McCraryThank goodness our Border Collie found milk chocolate! Actually, according to my tastes and preferences, milk chocolate is the only kind worth eating :-)) Unfortunately, I'm addicted to it........ Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan E. Garlinghouse" <suendavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'Bette Lamore'" <woa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Chris Paus'" <paus@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "'Barbara McCrary'" <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx>; "'GarnerT'" <GarnerT@xxxxxxx>; "'RIDECAMP'" <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:59 PM Subject: RE: [RC] Grapes-toxic? Or chocolate? Chocolate can and will indeed kill a dog, but it depends on how chocolate the chocolate is---baker's chocolate requiring relatively little to cause irreparable kidney/liver damage (which in turn causes neurologic symptoms that look like brain damage), milk chocolate is more likely to cause diarrhea, etc. My equine toxicology books still aren't unpacked, so not sure about horses, but have a hard time imagining how a horse would have access to enough chocolate to be a problem---aside from possible colic issues. I don't have exact specifications in front of me reagarding the toxicity of raisins, but the obvious difference between the two are the sulfites used in the drying process. Those make me pretty sick, too (bad headaches, etc), so it's not a huge leap to assume the same thing could occur in dogs or horses. In any case, the rule in toxicology is that dose is everything---a little may be no problem, but a lot is risky. So, just don't go overboard with anything suspect. I imagine a handful of raisins for a horse would be fine as a treat, but shouldn't be a staple. Susan Garlinghouse, DVM -----Original Message----- From: ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ridecamp-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bette Lamore Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 10:29 AM To: Chris Paus Cc: Barbara McCrary; GarnerT; RIDECAMP Subject: Re: [RC] Grapes-toxic? Or chocolate? From what I understand, chocolate will not kill a dog--- just cause brain damage if taken in sufficient quantities. Sooo perhaps if your dog is barking at an invisible foe...can't remember where he lives... or doesn't recognize you some day... you have your answer! ;-) Bette, who's Irish Setter got into a whole box of Girl Scout peanut butter cookies one time.. and ... well.. lets just say that you could free style roller skate in the bedroom with no skates!!! :-) Chris Paus wrote:Barbara, I had a German Shepard who was incorrigble about taking food. One day I came home and found out she had eaten all the contents of a 2 pound box of Russel Stover chocolates. She was not sick. Another time she got into candy bars my son was selling for his baseball team. $`1 a bar. I had to pay the team $19 for the bars Willa ate! She never got sick. I know it is dangerous and I keep it away from dogs now, but apparently some dogs can handle it. Willa lived to be almost 16... ancient for a GSD. chris --- Barbara McCrary <bigcreekranch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: but by the moments that take our breath away." (George Carlin) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ridecamp is a service of Endurance Net, http://www.endurance.net. Information, Policy, Disclaimer: http://www.endurance.net/Ridecamp Subscribe/Unsubscribe http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/logon.asp Ride Long and Ride Safe!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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