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Re: [RC] horse tying up - TypeF \(Jackie Floyd\)I've been reading these tying up thread with interested as I've never had a horse tie up and don't even know the symptoms. Obviously, I need to go through the archives or the help section at endurance.net to find out what it is. I'm assuming that it's severe muscle cramps. Anyway, my "main squeeze" horse won't touch the salt block, no matter what color it is, nor eat the loose ABC Redmond salt or the calcium suppliement or ANYTHING. I've been giving him the daily Surelytes in his grain just so he'd get something. My other horses will devour the entire helping of free choice Dynomite or ABC calcium I put out in 5 minutes and fight over it. And they all occasionally lick the red mineral block I have out there. I live in the San Joaquin Valley in California. Any suggestions for how to make sure my endurance guy is getting what he needs? He also gets a 2lb coffee can of XTN in the morning and the same can size of Nutrena Prime at night, around 3-4 hours of pasture every other day (have to rotate the rest of the herd since he's anti-social) and all the rye hay he can eat. He also gets a very small portion of grassy alfalfa every day. Plus he gets Select vitamines and a daily wormer. If I don't give him Surelytes, he gets Fasttrack Probiotics. :) Jackie and Tank, the finicky eater. ----- Original Message ----- From: <heidi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jcmiller@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <ridecamp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [RC] horse tying up Selenium is so sneaky. The only way to know if your horse needs selenium is to do a selenium blood test. Maggie(my horse) got pulled twice last year for muscle cramps. I never checked her selenium cause the year before she was way over 200 and the vet told me to cut back on the selenium. This year I checked it. 103!! Good grief, no wonder the mare had muscle cramps in the hind end. So far she has had 3 selenium vitamin E shots and the selenium supplement has been increased. I am done with the shots, she has knots in her neck but boy does she feel strong. So if it hasn't been done, check the horse's level. Then you will know what you need to do. JeanieGotta make a couple of comments here... One, the NORMAL range for selenium is 200 to 250 ppb--so at "way over 200" you probably had her just about right. Second, selenium is irritating to give in an IM injection and the amount is WAY over what should ever be injected in the thin muscle sheets of the neck. Try the back of the thigh next time. :-) (I much prefer giving it IV myself--no knots or sore muscles at all that way.) Heidi ============================================================ And remember, an arab's fourth gait is the spook! ~ Jeanie Miller ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================ ============================================================ The two best drugs to have in your kit are Tincture of Time and a Dose of Common Sense. These two will carry you through 99.999% of the problems associated with horses and endurance competition. ~ Robert Morris ridecamp.net information: http://www.endurance.net/ridecamp/ ============================================================
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