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Hi Mayanne
Overbreeding for race or show--- usually halter--- is still a big 
problem in the US. I cannot feel good about putting more babies on the 
ground without knowing they won't be the victims of a farm dispersal in 
CA  (as when Magness flooded the market a few years back when Tom 
died--- or in the case of all the Arabian show farms that went belly up 
years back).
The way I handle my desire to breed quality athletes is to only ship 
semen to mare owners, after checking out the quality of their mares, and 
to lease my quality mares to people who want a quality horse but don't 
want to have to buy a quality broodmare for the breeding. This system 
has worked for me and everyone is happy. Usually the horses on my sales 
page (very few) belong to clients who for some reason or another, can no 
longer keep the horse, and usually it is from my bloodlines or another 
bloodline that I am involved with--- I am not a broker.
This way I am still feeling good about breeding quality and , more 
importantly, I know they all have good homes. I have even wound up 
buying some back in cases where clients have to sell. I am definitely 
NOT a business person. :-) (at least, where it concerns horses)... but 
just ask me for a horse video or web site development...... :-)
Bette

Maryanne Stroud Gabbani wrote:

> Please, people, pay attention to this.  You, meaning North America,  
> have huge industries cranking out horses for race tracks and show 
> rings  and only a few can succeed.  You don't use horses for anything 
> that  practical and if you did, you probably wouldn't use those 
> horses.  I  know people here who have a nice stallion and a nice mare 
> who turn out  a foal or two every few years....they know where those 
> babies go.  It  isn't the same.  It's the industrial horses who have 
> no place in their  industries that are a problem.
> A few years ago we had a repeat of the Arabian horse breeders' 
> syndrome  when a bunch of people decided that you could make a killing 
> raising  Egyptian Arabians.  The number of private studs doubled...and 
> here they  are registered with the government.  Did the people make 
> money?  Of  course not.  So then when stud owner A got bored or tired 
> of paying the  bills, the horses ended up in the pyramids stables 
> (which is almost our  version of the killers).  THAT is haram!  There 
> are plenty of hair  curling stories about culling practices in some of 
> the big studs as it  is...but however horrible they are, the horses 
> don't end up as extras  in a country where people can't even use them 
> to haul tomatoes.
>
> Most small farmers here, if they have a mare to pull the cart, breed  
> their own replacement when she is getting old.  This doesn't put  
> another horse out into the marketplace because there isn't a market 
> for  the old mare and usually she just gets used for kids and what 
> not.  The  place that you can get good cheap horses in Egypt is the 
> same place as  in the US.....the racing studs where they are breeding 
> whatever will  win, although most of them don't.  They aren't pure 
> anything and by the  time they've been through the insanity that is 
> Egyptian flat racing,  they aren't much use for anything either.  But 
> they are cheap because  there are lots of them.  That's the problem.
>
> Maryanne
> Cairo
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 09:36 PM, Heidi Smith wrote:
>
> > *********************************************************************** 
> > ************
> > As has been rightly pointed out by others, the "throwaways" from  
> > activities
> > such as racing and the economics of keeping unsound horses far surpass
> > overbreeding when it comes to what is going to slaughter.
> >
> > Heidi
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Bette Lamore
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Home of 16.2h TLA Halynov
who lives on through his legacy
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